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#741 Posted : Thursday, 18 June 2009 7:09:26 PM(UTC)
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http://gallery.oldholden.../63+Buckskin/Kingswood/
should give you an idea about the colours and trim style.

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#742 Posted : Thursday, 18 June 2009 8:10:51 PM(UTC)
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here another little thing ive noticed over here in wa. for the licence & third party insurance (rego papers) all the "original" sandmans i have owned & seen have the model number blank. mainly because "sandman" wasnt able to be entered maybe?

eg:

make: holden

model:

body: pvan

agg: 1950

etc...

otherwise it would say "kingswood" or "belmont" even up to hzz normally i think. check your regos crew & let me know.
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#743 Posted : Thursday, 18 June 2009 9:39:10 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by sandmanxx7
here another little thing ive noticed over here in wa. for the licence & third party insurance (rego papers) all the "original" sandmans i have owned & seen have the model number blank. mainly because "sandman" wasnt able to be entered maybe?

eg:

make: holden

model:

body: pvan

agg: 1950

etc...

otherwise it would say "kingswood" or "belmont" even up to hzz normally i think. check your regos crew & let me know.


Hi Drew. that was true in W.A. until about 12 months ago. I hasseled the DPI to add Sandman to the list. Just ask them to change it as its available now...

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#744 Posted : Friday, 19 June 2009 4:38:27 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by sandmanxx7
here another little thing ive noticed over here in wa. for the licence & third party insurance (rego papers) all the "original" sandmans i have owned & seen have the model number blank. mainly because "sandman" wasnt able to be entered maybe?

eg:

make: holden

model:

body: pvan

agg: 1950

etc...

otherwise it would say "kingswood" or "belmont" even up to hzz normally i think. check your regos crew & let me know.



Problem is Sandman isnt really a model, like Vacationer or Drifter or Sundowner or Cobra or Plus4 or even A9X for that matter. So the model really probably should be "Holden HZ". Also the manufacturer should really be GMH. So youd have:

make: GMH

model: Holden HZ

body: pvan

Or other examples:

make: GMH

model: Holden LX Torana

body: coupe

make: GMH

model: Statesman HZ

body: sedan




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#745 Posted : Saturday, 20 June 2009 12:16:24 AM(UTC)
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over here its
Make : Holden
Model : Kingswood (or sandman)
Body : Ute
year : 1982
colour : White
Tare : 1370
Agg : 2200
GVM : 2200
Cyl : 8 cyl
Fuel : pet
Insurance class : 02
Engine number : WR321xxx
VIN / Chassis : CWB 36xxxA

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Edited by user Saturday, 20 June 2009 12:18:02 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#746 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:06:03 AM(UTC)
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hi guys, pick up my hz van project on the weekend. i am hoping it is a sandman waiting to be restored.
i will add the number and get you guys to let ne know. 06.78 hz panel van. 2000kg gvw 2 seating cap.
hz8w m 70 model 416370-a body 1939-63v trim 567-30530 paint l32 eng m20 g/box cv4 diffengine number starts with qr968**** also has nothing on rego papers under model. what do you guys think????? thanks robert w.a
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#747 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:19:31 AM(UTC)
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Definite XX7 Sandman. Has unique GVW.

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#748 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:28:06 AM(UTC)
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thats great news. do you think the engine is the one that should be in the van???
engine number qr968**** ? thanks robert w.a
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#749 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:37:33 AM(UTC)
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Number is very close to right range. Is it 316370 or 316380 body number? Number will be repeated in the end of the VIN if its an Adelaide assembled van.

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#750 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:52:22 AM(UTC)
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416xxx fits the time frame 6/78 for an Adel body

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#751 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 7:57:31 AM(UTC)
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the number is 41679 on both plates?

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#752 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 3:53:38 PM(UTC)
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Sorry, 416370 or 416380 (my bad). Reason I asked is I have a partial record for 416380 with the same build configuration as yours.

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#753 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 4:01:51 AM(UTC)
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Howdee guys bought my ute 20 years ago in process of rebuilding it need help identifing if sandman or not
HJ UTE
1-76
BHJ12583 M
GVW 1860
SEATING CAP 2

8N80LF J510842 5

MODEL : HJ8WN80
BODY : 510342M
TRIM : 1886-18V
PAINT 568-15949
ENG-L20 TRANS- M20 R AXLE GV7

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#754 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 5:16:33 AM(UTC)
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yep.
another HJ kingswood sandman ute outta Melbourne.

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#755 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 6:44:45 AM(UTC)
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Certainly looks like one but impossible to tell for sure without log books. Pretty rare combo too ie 202 manual Kingswood XX7 ute.

Does it have a tyre placard and its original engine?

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#756 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 7:19:54 AM(UTC)
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Not original motor,currently 308 have to check out tyre placard,not sure whether its original as there were 2 owners before i bought it.

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#757 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 9:59:11 AM(UTC)
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76 model 6cyl possible sandman? i too would LOVE LOVE to know the tyre placard number....

have you got any other 6cyl 76 hj sandmans recorded byron?

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#758 Posted : Friday, 26 June 2009 5:56:35 PM(UTC)
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Yes:

11/75 XX7 M20 Acacia van (1860kg);
2/76 XX7 M40 Pagewood van (1860kg);
8/76 ?? M20 Pagewood or Elizabeth van van (??);
1/76 XX7 M20 Dandenong Kingswood ute (1860kg);
5/76 XX7 M20 Dandenong Kingswood ute (1860kg) placard 9941014;
4/76 XX7 M20 Elizabeth ute (1860kg);
8/76 ?? M20 Elizabeth or Paewood van (???).

Only one placard unfortunately. The auto van was the second one I recorded, but I didnt get placard info back then.





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#759 Posted : Saturday, 27 June 2009 5:27:57 AM(UTC)
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back again tyre placard # is 9941013

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#760 Posted : Saturday, 27 June 2009 6:28:23 AM(UTC)
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hmm. its a sandman placard. but a V8 one. very strange because its a rare placard on a HJ lid. as it can only be sandman. But its not correct for a 76 build hj. so it looks like it must have come off a hj sandman pre "76 build" or a 76 XU3 sandman...

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