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Plot thickens as i said not sure what happend with the ute 12 years previous to myself buying it.
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Gday guys,
I have some numbers off a ute I was looking at buying and want to determine if its more than just a standard ute i.e. is this a sandman?
HX coupe utility A
8-76 AHX01255M
GVW 2155kg Seating cap 3
8M80LFJ535096X
Engine number: QM614863 - I didnt know where to look for the date on a 6, what might the date be?
HX8WM80
535096M
1886-67W
568-15949
ENG L20
TRANS M40
RRAXLE GV4
Chassis number: AHX01255M
Gear Box: K J
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Defintely not a Sandman. Just a Holden ute. Engine in it was originally a low comp 202 but it not the original engine as L20 is a high comp 202.
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Defintely not a Sandman. Just a Holden ute. Engine in it was originally a low comp 202 but it not the original engine as L20 is a high comp 202.
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Well, thats good then. The owner wouldnt sell it (wrecker), unless I paid for every individual part on it, according to their pic a part price guide and I couldnt be arsed hanging around looking all the parts up on the list.... There excuse was they "wanted parts for there customers and its a rare car", I tell you what if they sold it to me for $1500, they couldve gone and bought another ute that had more parts (i.e. complete car) with a totally rusted out crap body that nobody wanted, Geez they couldve bought two cars!! No business sense... Makes me angry that a seemingly good car is going to get parted out...oh well. It would be a nice ute to own. Looked to be in fairly good condition still, I think the floor pans needed replacement, though looked like rust was fairly minimal. I noticed on the monaro parts site the vin tag, I think, for the HX is from a different car, did you just have that tag there as reference.
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What do you mean? The HX Kingswood van? Those are matching tags, 100% guaranteed.
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What do you mean? The HX Kingswood van? Those are matching tags, 100% guaranteed.
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The problem I see is your VIN tag, which is 8N70TGH924920X and doesnt match up to the body number on the BIP which is 235718, if you say it is 100% original guarenteed, then it was clearly giving the wrong VIN number by holden and thats a big big mistake. That would mean a difference of 689202 between the VIN and the body no. Every thing else looks fine. Edited by user Thursday, 23 July 2009 9:55:44 PM(UTC)
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-H...3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50Listed as sandman ute XX7 with seating capacity of 3 and a panelvan tag.
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What do you mean? The HX Kingswood van? Those are matching tags, 100% guaranteed.
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The problem I see is your VIN tag, which is 8N70TGH924920X and doesnt match up to the body number on the BIP which is 235718, if you say it is 100% original guarenteed, then it was clearly giving the wrong VIN number by holden and thats a big big mistake.
That would mean a difference of 689202 between the VIN and the body no.
Every thing else looks fine.
Pagewood and Dandenong assembled HJ-HZ vans all have Elizabeth BODY plates, hence they never have matching PSN and BODY numbers - they cant as the PSN is assigned by the assembly plant and the BODY number is assigned by the plant that constructs the shell. Totally normal, and that set of plates line up perfectly with dozens I have recorded around it. Wait till you see a Pagewood assembled post 1/70 HT or HG van. These have Elizabeth BODY and ADR plates and Pagewood VIN plate. They get the Elizabeth ADR plate as the chassis number is on the firewall when the shell is built, rather than stamped at the assembly plant like HQ-WB when the ADR tag, engine and chassis are all put together. Imagine the logistics of this? I wonder if this is one reason why the chassis number moved to the rails in HQ??? _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-H...3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Listed as sandman ute XX7 with seating capacity of 3 and a panelvan tag.
Maybe it is a genuine Sandman van that has had a ute conversion done. It has no holes for the tonneau <SP?> hooks.
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Holden-H...3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Listed as sandman ute XX7 with seating capacity of 3 and a panelvan tag.
Maybe it is a genuine Sandman van that has had a ute conversion done. It has no holes for the tonneau <SP?> hooks.
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Id be surprised with seating for three. Would be the first ever recorded.
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That ute has a GVW of 2200kg and a seating capacity of 3, the chassis is BHZ16360B, tags are definitely from 2 different cars.
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And you know what? That chassis number is spot on for the VIN and BODY tags. Impossible to luck I would guess. Leroy, did he give you the chassis number off the rails or off the ADR tag?
My guess is its a van converted to a ute and the ADR tag has been swapped.
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They sent me a pic of the tag I can pass it on if you like, as far as the number goes I thought exactly the same thing, the XX7 tag would be from a late Sept and the ADR is very early Oct. Would the XX7 have originally been 1950 or 2000kg?
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2000kg for a 1978 XX7 van.
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...3e9&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14Certainly looks to be a genuine Sandy, Burgundy is also a rare colour. "Planet earth is the asylum to which the rest of the universe sends its lunatics" Voltaire |
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...4ee&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14a sandy around that GVM changeover period. WANTED: -2 14 x 9.25 CSA style Centrelines. -2 x 15 x 8 Dragway centrelines |
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Gday need some help with I.D of van please.Model HX8WM70
Body no. 214918-A Trim 1890-18v GVW 1950kg Seating Capacity 2 Date 11/76 L 32 M 20 GV7 Long skinny plate reads 8M70RG J548920X
Any help would be great. Thanks
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Its a HX XX7 Sandman van, originally Mandarin red with slate black trim. Built in the Elizabeth plant. Was originally a 253 4spd with 3.55 diff.
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Thanks for that , i have just finished restoring this sandman and glad to hear its original.
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can anyone help with a missing vin tag for a hx ute made in adelaide
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