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#781 Posted : Thursday, 19 November 2009 7:16:34 AM(UTC)
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Ok she arrived today, needs lots of work to bring her back to life.

Heres the details if you do not already have them;



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#782 Posted : Thursday, 19 November 2009 9:14:11 PM(UTC)
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q for byron...
HQ P van
complianced
3/74 build, 2 seater , 4850GMV
PSN
8m70RDH8 (could be H3)
body tag
80270QR, (No XX7)
30B trim (black),
salamanca red,
M20
No tyre placard, but has full gts options, No decals? ever fitted (in original paint) were these a deleteable option?, could this be a Sydney built sandy? from what I can determin it could be, but owner (not original) says it definatly isnt, as was told this by original owner... also no hand books...
thanks in advance
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#783 Posted : Friday, 20 November 2009 1:26:50 AM(UTC)
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Could easily be one. If the VIN has H8 its a Pagewood build (hence no XX7).
Decals were not factory fitted in HQ, they were either dealer fitted or not fitted. I recently got GM-H paperwork showing this. Im not updating the website at this stage as I am working on another Sandman "project" where all the new info is going. Will take a while as I have to gather all relevant GM-H paperwork first.

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#784 Posted : Friday, 20 November 2009 5:38:42 AM(UTC)
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thanks byron..


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#785 Posted : Monday, 23 November 2009 9:11:29 AM(UTC)
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Ive been told a few different things regarding my HJ Sandman van.It is Deville Blue in colour.

a: 1 has told me it should have the stripe across the tailgate and another says it should have SANDMAN in running writing (same as side sticker).
b: 1 has told me that stickers should be white and another says black.

So which is true?

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#786 Posted : Monday, 23 November 2009 8:56:10 PM(UTC)
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Just picked up another XX7 Sandman on the weekend...
minimal rust
full matching numbers original engine...
Built 11/78
Gvw 1950
Acacia built XX7
Paint 30526 (Caribbean Turquoise)
Trim 63v
eng L31 308
box M41 T400
dif Gu4 3.08

tyre placard 9946866
Power steering
GTS mirrors and full gts interior..

Interestingly enough
The ute seems to have factory fitted GTS guards
Also the spare wheel is a N67 alloy wheel..so i am guessing it came from factory with N67s as ute is original except for the Simmons wheels that were fitted in the early 90s ...

I am thinking of adding sandman decals to it but am unsure of which colour would suit..
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#787 Posted : Monday, 23 November 2009 9:14:02 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by AGRO
Ive been told a few different things regarding my HJ Sandman van.It is Deville Blue in colour.

a: 1 has told me it should have the stripe across the tailgate and another says it should have SANDMAN in running writing (same as side sticker).
b: 1 has told me that stickers should be white and another says black.

So which is true?

Thanks


HQ & HJ Sandman had the stripe across the tailgate as well as the small Sandman script above it. The HQ & HJ decals were white or black depending on body colour. This could change at any time, AFAIK the HQ & HJ decals were supplied with the car & then fitted at the dealership.

HX & HZ got the larger lettering across the tailgate, in the later style font.

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#788 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 1:42:33 AM(UTC)
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vanman - that sounds like an awesome buy.

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- HQ-HX coupe door mouldings (the stainless one running along top of door exterior)
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#789 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 7:20:06 AM(UTC)
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VANMAN - Nice score!! I have a carribean turquoise sandman. The decals are dark blue, light blue and white. Have a look at my thread below.
http://www.fastlane.com....topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19235
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#790 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 7:25:20 AM(UTC)
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Ah I stand corrected by myself.. Just had a double check and theyre actually 3 different blues...
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#791 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 8:28:22 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Terry

HQ & HJ Sandman had the stripe across the tailgate as well as the small Sandman script above it. The HQ & HJ decals were white or black depending on body colour. This could change at any time, AFAIK the HQ & HJ decals were supplied with the car & then fitted at the dealership.

HX & HZ got the larger lettering across the tailgate, in the later style font.

Dr Terry


So how do i find out what it should be?
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#792 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 8:38:52 AM(UTC)
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Hi Argo. You may have spoken to me through ebay. But on your colour they should be white. Black on a dark blue just would not suit.

VANMAN - if you happen to want to sell it let me know! Or if you want some stripes also let me know.

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#793 Posted : Tuesday, 24 November 2009 9:25:34 PM(UTC)
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yes have to agree with HZute, there is a HJ Sandman locally in the same colour as yours, it has had a ground up rebuild & has the white GTO style stripes on the side & tail gate, with white sandman decals, it looks very good, I can also recall a HJ in mandarine red with the same white stripes getting around back in the 80s, was it possible to order the red sandmans with white stripes? or were there set colour combinations. I think a pur-pull sandy with white stripes would look quite good.

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#794 Posted : Thursday, 26 November 2009 2:18:38 AM(UTC)
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I have the HQ and HJ paint and stripe colours out of GMH documentation (thanks to Warren), so let me know the TRIM line and build date and I can help.

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#795 Posted : Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:54:49 AM(UTC)
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dont happen to have any info on the hx/hz combos?
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#796 Posted : Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:57:46 AM(UTC)
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I have the HQ and HJ paint and stripe colours out of GMH documentation (thanks to Warren), so let me know the TRIM line and build date and I can help.

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Trim is 1898 19V
Build is 5/75
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#797 Posted : Thursday, 26 November 2009 8:59:46 AM(UTC)
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Hi Argo. You may have spoken to me through ebay. But on your colour they should be white. Black on a dark blue just would not suit.

Cheers
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May have.I did message someone from Tazzie in regards to the stripes and getting "Sandman" (in running writing) on the tailgate instead of the stripe.
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#798 Posted : Friday, 27 November 2009 9:05:14 PM(UTC)
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I have some additional HX and HZ info, and also some later HZ colour charts. But I have been writing HQ and HJ stuff initially and will have answers on HX and HZ when I get closer to it.
Agro, I dont have the info with me right now, but will look for you in the next few days.

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#799 Posted : Saturday, 28 November 2009 8:19:37 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Byron

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#800 Posted : Saturday, 28 November 2009 9:33:35 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by HZute-efi-VS5L
dont happen to have any info on the hx/hz combos?


Here ya go Jason....

HZ Sandman 1979

dy1- orange / brown / darkbrown
dy2-orange / bright blue / blue green
dy3-yellow / orange / red
dy4-white / blue green / dark blue
dy6- dark blue / purple / plum
dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue

Ashley Grey 30857 - 1948 dy4-white / blue green / dark blue
Atlantis Blue Met. 30525 - 1934 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
Aztec Silver Met. 30851 - 1952 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
Dark Carmine Met. 30852 - 1953 dy6- dark blue / purple / plum
Firethorn 10981 - 1189 dy6- dark blue / purple / plum
Flamenco Red 30517 - 1926 dy3-yellow / orange / red
Jasmine Yellow 30518 - 1927 dy2-orange / bright blue / blue green
Malachite Met. 30853 - 1954 dy6- dark blue / purple / plum
Mirage Blue Met. 30854 - 1955 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
Mistral Grey 30855 - 1956 dy6- dark blue / purple / plum
Mojave Beige 30858 - 1949 dy1- orange / brown / darkbrown
Nocturne Blue Met. 30856 - 1957 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
Palais White 30521 - 1930 dy2-orange / bright blue / blue green
Panama Green 30522 - 1931 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
Saddle Tan Met. 30528 - 1937 dy1- orange / brown / darkbrown
Sage Green Met. 30967 - 1958 dy4-white / blue green / dark blue
Sandlewood Met. 30583 - 1945 dy1- orange / brown / darkbrown
Tuxedo Black (MK.2) 30861 - 1959 dx5- bright blue / blue green / dark blue
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