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I just noticed that one of my plates has a number in texta written on it.
Why would holden do this as you dont see it anyway?
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Its the last 3 numbers in the PSN (end of the VIN).
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Arrrr Thanks Byron
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Hi, did HX sandman with a 253 have manual choke and therefore a choke cable in the dash?
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Hi, did HX sandman with a 253 have manual choke and therefore a choke cable in the dash?
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Thanks Dr Terry. By the way I have your old 50 years of Holden book and look forward to getting your new edition.
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Did the HX Sandman ute have the mirrors the same colour as the body? What colour carpet and roof lining for 18v trim? Two barrel carby or 4? Was the engine bay black or same colour as the rest of the ute? What about inside the tray? Sorry so many questions.
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HX Sandman had black mirrors. All Holden spec HJ Sandmans had XY9 neutral headlining as standard, but Kingswood spec were different. Not 100% sure on HX and HZ however, and I cannot find listed where the XX7 or XU3 packages got coloured headlining but I know HZ were coloured at some stage. All I can find reference to is all HZ 8WM 60/70/80 had XY9 as standard, yet I know of 2 x original 23C trim vans with blue headlining. B30 (carpet) was coloured to suit the trim as far as I know. Engine bay depended upon the assembly plant, but Id have to go searching to see what had which colour when (this is from memory). The back should be that flecky beige colour for the ute section but I think the turret sides were just primer or grey. Have a look at the photo on my website of the green HJ van where I show the headlining strip, you can see the grey. That van was very original, and a very rare 6cyl auto HJ Sandman van, 4 wheel drums and all!
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I have these in my spreadsheet if its any help: Van and Ute rear well Colourflek Astro Grey 611-14224 or Grey Vynacote 599-15160 [url="http://www.mysandman.com.au/"]  [/url] Edited by user Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:47:03 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the info. It was built in Sydney if that helps for the engine bay colour. Ute looks to have original paint but will know for sure tomorrow. Just for interest sake I have a copy of Motor Manual magazine october 1976. They did a feature on a Sandman van and ute. The van(on the cover too!) is orange and has orange mirrors. Cant see the ute mirrors. They say the ute was pretty rough and was missing the handbrake grip and had the wrong radio etc so maybe they were rushed out the dealer door for the article.
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Is that the article where the van is an M21 and the ute an M41, and they say the ute is gutless but the van is a powerhouse? HX production option availability dated 1/5/75 (release), re-written 10/12/76 and also 28/4/77, says in black and white: Black painted Lukey Slim Line left and right hand door mirrors. HZ are painted body colour.
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Yeah thats the one. So black is the go then. What are the new repo mirrors like?
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Not 100% sure on HX and HZ however, and I cannot find listed where the XX7 or XU3 packages got coloured headlining but I know HZ were coloured at some stage. All I can find reference to is all HZ 8WM 60/70/80 had XY9 as standard, yet I know of 2 x original 23C trim vans with blue headlining.
HX and HZ Sandman had coloured headlining as per the trim code, neutral headlining was available as an option on Sandmans with 18V trim codes only. This is listed in the HX and HZ parts catalogues in the trim colour charts.
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It must be because they got Kingswood level trim, and XY9 was available on Kingswood. That is something not spelled out in order or feature paperwork. One of the few times that reversion to the parts catalogue may be required.
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I think I need to do more research here. I looked in the HJ catalogue and there is no mention of a neutral WM70 headlining, only colours. Plus the early catalogue doent even have the long headlining in it!
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Have you seen this XU3 HZ Sandman van for your records Byron. The ad says no dreamers but at the price hes asking I think hes the one thats dreaming.... http://cgi.ebay.com.au/w...ewItem&item=130362453998I notice it has a blue full headlining also.
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Thats one of the blue headlinings I was referring to. If the body is as good as he says though, $10k for a Palais white van is not that bad I suppose. If there is buger all work to do it could save $3-4k in rust repairs? In my opinion its the best possbile colour, and although Id refer slate black trim it wasnt available for all of HZ so the blue isnt all that bad on white. A mate of mine has a Windsor blue in 23C trim and it looks really nice.
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I think I need to do more research here. I looked in the HJ catalogue and there is no mention of a neutral WM70 headlining, only colours. Plus the early catalogue doesnt even have the long headlining in it!
Ahh, that one is easy Byron. I assume you have the later HJ catalogue, mine is July 77. It lists neutral headlining (Chamois) in 8WN models as available on 18V,X,Y and 45V,X,Y trim codes only. Dove Grey neutral on early production with 18V,X,Y trim codes. Now the long headlining was only available in Dove Grey, Chamois, Gazelle and Tan so a 19V Sandman would have got Dove Grey during early production and Chamois for later production as standard... Black wasnt available so no need to list neutral headlining for 8WM Sandmans. My old HJ Sandman had Chamois headlining and that 1/75 Sandman on Ebay last week had a Dove Grey headlining so is consistent with the catalogues. The only thing that threw me a little was the Red Sandman in the 74 brochure showing the open rear, it has a black full headlining but I have now had a closer look at it and it is actually a base model van with a bench seat.... the full headlining has actually been air brushed in.  Edited by user Sunday, 31 January 2010 11:56:19 PM(UTC)
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Howdee guys bought my ute 20 years ago in process of rebuilding it need help identifing if sandman or not
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BHJ12583 M
GVW 1860
SEATING CAP 2
8N80LF J510842 5
MODEL : HJ8WN80
BODY : 510342M
TRIM : 1886-18V
PAINT 568-15949
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Just discovered gvw is 1800kg not 1860 on platesis this xu4
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BHJ12583 M
GVW 1800kg
SEATING CAP 2
8N80LF J510842 5
MODEL : HJ8WN80
BODY : 510342M
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