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#921 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 3:31:08 AM(UTC)
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Id never seen an 1800kg HJ Kingswood Sandman ute until the other day, id only ever recorded 1860kg. This is the second one. My guess it is a Sandman but I cannot conform for sure. The best way to tell will be to see if it ever had side strips as the only HJ Kingswood ute not to get them was a Sandman. Look for holes on the ends of the doors and guards and tailgate. Ill have a better look at all the others and see what it throws up.


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#922 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 5:47:07 AM(UTC)
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As far as i know there were no stripes down the sides only a black decal across the tailgate.

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#923 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 6:03:17 AM(UTC)
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I think he means the kingswood strips that needed holes drilled to fit on the body, not the sandman stripes.
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#924 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 6:26:45 AM(UTC)
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Yes, Kingswood utes had a bump strip down the sides which was deleted on Sandman. The presence of a Sandman decal on the tailgate is pretty good evidence it is a Sandman assuming the tailgate is original to the car.
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#925 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 6:36:48 AM(UTC)
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Yes with you now. No holes drilled for bump stripes down side of ute or across tailgate.
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#926 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 6:43:02 AM(UTC)
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As far as i know there were no stripes down the sides only a black decal across the tailgate.

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As above, strips not stripes. HJ Kingswood Sandman had the side and tailgate STRIPS deleted so that the Sandman STRIPES could be applied. If it isnt a Sandman it will have evidence of the strips being fitted and removed.

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#927 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 6:58:34 AM(UTC)
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At work at the moment will check it out tomorrow

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#928 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 10:30:07 PM(UTC)
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Had a look for holes drilled for strips no holes on the body or doors and gaurds.

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#929 Posted : Monday, 1 February 2010 11:32:40 PM(UTC)
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Without wanting to be pedantic, werent those side strips on HJ Kingswoods originally retained by plastic clips located key-hole style on spot-welded studs. Any clips held on by screws (or pop-rivets) would be put there by panelbeaters after any body repairs.

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#930 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:17:51 AM(UTC)
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Terry, yes for the quarter strips, but the doors, guards and tailgate strips have holes through the panels for the end clips on each strip where a screw holds them from behind. The middlle clips on the panels have studs. I think this is the same from HK eg Kingswood side strips? Plus when you remove paint it is normally obvious where the spot welded studs have been removed by grinder versus if it had none to begin with.

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#931 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2010 2:59:57 AM(UTC)
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Terry, yes for the quarter strips, but the doors, guards and tailgate strips have holes through the panels for the end clips on each strip where a screw holds them from behind. The middlle clips on the panels have studs. I think this is the same from HK eg Kingswood side strips? Plus when you remove paint it is normally obvious where the spot welded studs have been removed by grinder versus if it had none to begin with.

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Yes, of course I forgot about the end clips at the door edge.

Hey Byron, it might be time for a new keyboard or a new typist, you typed two Ls again. look how you spelled middle.

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#932 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2010 4:03:20 AM(UTC)
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Fat fingers, small keyboard or both!!

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#933 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2010 4:51:16 AM(UTC)
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Id never seen an 1800kg HJ Kingswood Sandman ute until the other day, id only ever recorded 1860kg. This is the second one. My guess it is a Sandman but I cannot conform for sure. The best way to tell will be to see if it ever had side strips as the only HJ Kingswood ute not to get them was a Sandman. Look for holes on the ends of the doors and guards and tailgate. Ill have a better look at all the others and see what it throws up.



You say you have only recorded 1 sandman with 1800gvm how did you confirm that 1
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#934 Posted : Tuesday, 2 February 2010 10:01:25 PM(UTC)
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This one is back. ebay ref 130363286316.
Originally posted in the local trading post, but it was removed before I had a chance to look over it.

HX8WM70
body 2421827-A
trim 1894-67V
paint 56715940
engine L31
trans M21
axle GV4

GVW 2200KG
8M70TG J586333X
seating capacity 2

*edited body number - thanks Leroy.

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#935 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 2:04:51 AM(UTC)
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Body no for the above is 241827, its the latest Melb HX I have come across.


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#936 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 4:17:49 AM(UTC)
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Byron got another one This one has been in the shop for the past 3-4 years. Previous owner was in Adelaide who didnt believe it was a Sandman because he believed Sandmans must have XX7 stamped on Body plate.





Also while I was chatting with the guy, he had plates for an HT Monaro, I briefly glanced at it 80737(?). If its important I could go back and get details for you.





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#937 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 5:41:33 AM(UTC)
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Ben Stewart will gladly accept any Monaro ID numbers for the Regsiter. Ill pass them on if you send them to me.

More Sandmans too for the Register. Keep them coming!

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#938 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 5:45:25 AM(UTC)
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Picked my ute up today and brought it home. Someone give me some inspiration. Has some rust in roof and below back window. Some more along one side where some cool dude stuck those thick stick on rubber strips. What I thought was 18V slate grey dash and glove box is actually brown painted slate grey. As I already knew it is missing GTS dash,steering wheel and engine/gearbox. Got a quote from local panelbeater and he said was quite fixable but would be around $12000. Its got a leaking sunroof as well. However the interior light switch wiring is intact and it has a GVM of 1860kg.
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#939 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 6:05:55 AM(UTC)
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Another interesting plate, the ADR plate is AHX when Feb 77 seems to be the changeover date to BHX, must have been made after a long weekend.

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#940 Posted : Wednesday, 3 February 2010 6:32:27 AM(UTC)
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Mine is a 3/77 with AHX sydney assembled.
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