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#961 Posted : Thursday, 11 February 2010 6:07:44 AM(UTC)
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Frank, is that the one Neal is selling with another van as spares. Bloody good value at $5000, if it wasnt so far away Id probably buy it.
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#962 Posted : Thursday, 11 February 2010 6:28:33 AM(UTC)
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Frank, is that the one Neal is selling with another van as spares. Bloody good value at $5000, if it wasnt so far away Id probably buy it.


thats the one, im fixing worse cars than this at the moment..

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#963 Posted : Thursday, 11 February 2010 8:48:59 AM(UTC)
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The stripes on that one are umm... interesting.
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#964 Posted : Friday, 12 February 2010 8:30:21 AM(UTC)
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The stripes are dull and lacking the outlines that set them off. They look great when in good nick.

Can someone tell me if the van roofs from the seam below the side windows are all the same? I heard that from HQ through to WB the tops were identical but read somewhere that different plants produced different shapes

Cheers

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#965 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 12:22:28 AM(UTC)
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Byron, Hi and here are some more ID tags/information for your register,Please share your thoughts,with the money im spending I hope to bugery its a Sandman?????(so does my wife!!!)

Model: HJ8WM70 XX7
BodyNo: 384107B
Trim: 1916 19V
Paint: 568 17777

top
eng L31 TransM21 GV4

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HOLDEN
HJ PANEL VAN

5/76 BHJ 25427B
GVW 1950 kg seating cap 2
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GENERAL MOTORS HOLDENS PTY LTD
8M70TF H384107J
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and yes it has fingers at rear of van for hood lining, and door plug to turn on interior light fitted.Have had the van for 16 months and still long way to go,but heaps of fun!!! Questions: what colour is my hood lining? what motor should be in it(308 at present,not original)came with twin headlights? all other GTS options fitted. Hope this is helpfull you all doing a great job,heaps of info, I will need to ask about decals and which are the BEST and how to source them??
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#966 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 12:24:02 AM(UTC)
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Forgot to sign off!!!

Thanks Mick
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#967 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 1:06:33 AM(UTC)
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It is an XX7 Sandman, easy one to pick. Twin front isnt original though. It was originally a 308. Not that certain on headlining. Neutral (Chamois) is supposed to be standard on HJ base model. With 19V trim I imagine itll be Neutral. Absinth has a better handle on this at the moment.

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#968 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 1:10:58 AM(UTC)
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Byron, you may wanna check out the latest issue of Unique Cars Magazine. Theyve got the Sandmans as a feature in the latest issue.
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#969 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 2:22:56 AM(UTC)
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I know. I bought it yesterday. I just wish theyd asked me to check it out before publishing as they have made a fair few novice errors.

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#970 Posted : Saturday, 13 February 2010 6:23:58 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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The stripes are dull and lacking the outlines that set them off. They look great when in good nick.

Can someone tell me if the van roofs from the seam below the side windows are all the same? I heard that from HQ through to WB the tops were identical but read somewhere that different plants produced different shapes

Cheers

Pete


I know I was more pointing out that they are not original and are an interresting way of someone doing them.

Cheers
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#971 Posted : Sunday, 14 February 2010 9:21:18 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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I know. I bought it yesterday. I just wish theyd asked me to check it out before publishing as they have made a fair few novice errors.


What are these errors?
Has it got to do with the badges on the tailgate?


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#972 Posted : Sunday, 14 February 2010 6:49:15 PM(UTC)
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HQ Sandman vans and utes are based upon Belmonts. Wrong.

"came with Monaro-style louvered mudguards". No. GTS style as per what they say about instruments.

The sentence about wild colours including the full range of HQ Monaro metallics, with decals in up to six different colour combinations. Wrong. Metallics have little to do with Monaro (paint is really the Kingswood range), and HQ only has 2 x stripe colours. They are probably referring to HZ but the sentence doesnt read that way.

Once the GTS sedan was discontinued in 1979, the Sandman line also dissapeared. Nope. GTS was gone early 1979. Sandman lasted until late 1979, almost to the end of HZ.

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#973 Posted : Tuesday, 16 February 2010 9:37:12 AM(UTC)
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[quote]Originally posted by HK1837
As far as I know there is no such thing as BHX on HX commercials. I have AHX until 8/77 from all assembly plants.

In regards to ADR changes I have recorded several 1 and 2/79 HZ commercials with CHZ but the sedans are still BHZ until 4/79 what was the change and why only commercials initially?

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#974 Posted : Tuesday, 16 February 2010 6:19:34 PM(UTC)
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Itll just be an ADR change that happened later on the passenger vehicles or vice versa. HX is probably intrusion bars in passenger vehicles but commercials didnt get them.

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#975 Posted : Friday, 19 February 2010 9:28:57 PM(UTC)
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Got this one?

Model: HJ8WM80 XX7
Body: 349263B
Trim: 1905 64V
Paint: 568 17342
Eng: L32 Trans: M20 Axle: GU4
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#976 Posted : Friday, 19 February 2010 10:02:12 PM(UTC)
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No, and a rare one too. I have hardly any HQ-HJ Belmont/Holden Sandman utes recorded, most are Kingswood. 8WM80 XX7/XU3 was dropped mid HJ, so they are only around from 1/74 to 2or3/76. Only the 2nd HJ (have 1 x HQ also) Acacia Ridge example. Do you have the chassis number?

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#977 Posted : Friday, 19 February 2010 10:24:34 PM(UTC)
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5/75 Build
BHJ 13440B (hard to read)
GVW: 2200
Seating: 2

Long Tag: 8M80REH349263J
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#978 Posted : Friday, 19 February 2010 10:30:19 PM(UTC)
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BHJ13440B is right. Rest I deduced from what you already posted.

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#979 Posted : Saturday, 20 February 2010 9:21:05 AM(UTC)
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Ive been looking through some Sandman brochures and 70s magazines and have found a lot of discrepancies.

First off is HJ Sandman interior. The first pic is from the HJ brochure and the second is a 2yr old (at the time) HJ Sandman in CV&T. Only 2yrs old and the owner has fitted a Prem front and Statesman Caprice dash.

Note the different door trims.




Next is HX interior. This is the road test HX Sandman van CV&T picked up from Fishermans Bend to road test in Oct. 76

Note the HJ console




Now mirrors....

HX Sandman with coloured mirrors



Van Action road test of HX Sandman van and ute.
Van has coloured mirrors and Ute has black mirrors.




Then.... we have a HZ Sandman van with black mirrors.




My question is.... are these just differences between promotional vehicles and production vehicles or were there differences between assembly plants?

With the HJ door trims, I have seen other examples of Sandmans with the same base model door trims as in the second picture.
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#980 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 3:43:43 AM(UTC)
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Another one to list
HJ8WM80 XX7
351591B
1886-19V
L32 M20 GU4

5/75 2200kg seat 2

8W80REH351591J
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