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#981 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 5:53:05 AM(UTC)
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This one was on Ebay.

Model: HJ
Engine: L31 Trans: M21 Axle: GV4
Model HWN80JR 03/75
TRIM 1886-18V
PAINT:568-15949
Seating: 2
GVW: 2200
middle body plate 8N80TEH855266J
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#982 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 7:37:20 AM(UTC)
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Got it already. Not sure what to think about the photos above. GMH and their prototypes and press cars, who knows?

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#983 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 7:51:10 AM(UTC)
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I solved one of the mysteries. I found that HX auto consoles were available with or without front lift up lid. Its listed in the parts catalogue.
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#984 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 8:01:16 AM(UTC)
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You learn something new everyday with GMH product once you really start digging. The biggest thing ive learned is you can never make sweeping statements like "all 253s are trimatic pattern", or "all HT Broughams wer powerglides" because there is always one thing that trips you up!

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#985 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 8:09:01 AM(UTC)
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Hi Byron was it absinths ebay car or my sandman you already have Cheers Ron
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#986 Posted : Tuesday, 23 February 2010 6:30:29 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Ron, it was Absinths. Did you have a chassis number for the one you listed? Should be BHJ135xxB or close to it.

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#987 Posted : Wednesday, 24 February 2010 2:23:20 AM(UTC)
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Chassis number is BHJ 13535B. Can send photos of compliance plates if this helps, but will need an email address as I dont know how to post on this site!!! Thanks Ron.
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#988 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 2:01:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi all, Ive seen a HQ van sitting in a yard with NRMA setup, looking pretty straight, What do I have be weary of when checking it a bit closer and what sort of money should I be thinking to buy it?. The answers may be somewhere on these 95 pages, can somebody tell me to save me reading them all....all the best regards Jack.
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#989 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 3:14:35 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone, can anyone help me with this question: We have just bought a panel van and we consider it to be a Sandman the information on the ID plate is as follows: VIN: 8M70RHJ595291Z
The complience plate shows: HZ panel van
10-77 AHZ 00205M
GVW 1950kg seat capacity 2
the other plate says Model HZ8WM70
Body No 395399-A
Trim 1927-67V
Paint 568-30518
Eng L32 Trans M20 RRAXLE GV7
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#990 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 3:59:49 AM(UTC)
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Get the tyre placard number. Its your best friend for this car!

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#991 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 4:19:52 AM(UTC)
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Chassis number is BHJ 13535B. Can send photos of compliance plates if this helps, but will need an email address as I dont know how to post on this site!!! Thanks Ron.


Ron, dont worry about photos. All the numbers fit. As you can see my Sandman database is big enough now to predict most numbers given a partial ID. Its only the lower digits of the chassis, VIN and BODY numbers plus paint codes and build configurations that become important.

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#992 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 8:04:33 AM(UTC)
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Hi Byron do you have the details for the sister car to Rodneys it has next PSN 292 and body no 400 but the chassis is 40 different and also 11/77 for compliance.

Rodney do you have the engine no?

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#993 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 5:16:01 PM(UTC)
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Yes. I have 12 x Dandenong HZ Sandmans between chassis numbers between 133M and 582M including Rodneys if its one.

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#994 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 6:24:40 PM(UTC)
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Ive spotted an HZ ute the last couple weeks on the way to work. Stopped off yesterday to have a chat to the owner.

He has had it for 12 months and selling - sadly the ADR plate did not match the details of the Body plate. What is the best way to determine which plate is correct for the car?

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#995 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 6:41:01 PM(UTC)
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He has had it for 12 months and selling - sadly the ADR plate did not match the details of the Body plate. What is the best way to determine which plate is correct for the car?

The chassis number on the ADR compliance plate must be the same as the chassis number stamped on the rail next to the steering box.

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#996 Posted : Thursday, 25 February 2010 9:13:55 PM(UTC)
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this van is still with the owner i paid a reasonable size deposite and sail agreement for the sandman van .The owner read the tyre placard for me this morning and he says there is vynil over spray on the placard , is hard to read and doesnot want to clean it to much because it may clean the numbers of but thinks the number is 9942860 assuming the 2 is 6 and he has miss read this does it come down to weather the last number a 9 panel van or a 6 sandman. Iam from central nsw is there someone from melbourne that may be an expert that may be able to inspect to confirm
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#997 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 7:45:28 AM(UTC)
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if the glovebox is original the placard will eaither be 9947524 (XU4) or 9946866 (XX7)

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#998 Posted : Monday, 1 March 2010 11:23:44 PM(UTC)
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Hi fellows thanks for your information so far
It appears that the tyre placard number is to hard to read would a sandman have a different nominated rim size or pressures etc than a xu4
Iam also basing my assumption that this is a sandman because it had the following
roof lining attachment clips over back door
black button switch for courtesy light on door frame front
centre console and bolts in bottom of console look original
2 seats
the out side of the van door openings have been sprayed and chip on the outsie bottom of the door sill reveals black
paint under, the steering wheel is a three spoked wheel with 2 holes in each.
Under the bonnett has not been resprayed and is the original jasmine yellow,I will have to have a second look now, but from memory the double headlight front end, appeared to be original, with some jasmine yellow on the inside of it.
Is Jasmine yellow more likely to be a colour for a sandman rather than an XU4? and is the L32 high compression motor more likely to be standard in a Sandman than an XU4?

Many thanks if you can answer some or all of the questions, and comment on my assumption I would be grateful
Rodney
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#999 Posted : Tuesday, 2 March 2010 3:28:27 AM(UTC)
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It does sound like a Sandman, but all that stuff is optional on an XU4 plus a BO6 (Ambulance pack) had the twin headlight front, so if its all original it could be a 253 4spd BO6 XU4. Main difference is B06 got Premier doortrims and armrests, but didnt get blackouts and air dam. Not sure about console. L32 engine is normal 253 for any HZ. Jasmine yellow is one of the 4 x colours you could get a base HZ commercial in, so no help there either. In HZ, Sandman had a different tyre placard to XU4, thats why for an early HZ van the tyre placard is your best option.

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#1000 Posted : Tuesday, 2 March 2010 4:58:33 AM(UTC)
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...an_W0QQitemZ250588348882


In the questions and answers the seller states he has been told by monaroparts.com that it is most probably a Sandman?????????
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