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Ive also got this one recorded and not sure which code Ive copied incorrectly
Model: HZ8WM70
Body:393056A
Trim: 1934 - 67V
Paint: 567 - 30527
Vin 8m7orhj592649z
CHassis AHZ00076M
1950kg
Placard 9946866
Could be Dynasty Gold Met or Atlantis Blue Met. depending on which I copied incorrectly
Bugger! Would be good if it was 1936 paint (Dysnasty Gold) as I dont have one of them. That is the second oldest Dandenong HZ Sandman ive yet recorded. I have another with a PSN about 75 numbers earlier. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/holden-h...geNameZRSS:B:SRCH:AU:102Warren another Wakker trying to sell sandman plates on 3bay thought you might want details for sandman register..
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Yes you do. XX7 on the BODY plate is a dead giveaway!
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Hi, very interesting topic. I just had a look at my old HQ ute and have found the following; 5/ 74 Bucket seats M20 4 speed HQ 80280 body 431025 M trim 1885 - 39B Paint 568 - 15894 8M80RDJ431025 GVM 4850 Chassis EH 25738 M What is the story with Melbourne built utes? I also have a HJ PV wreck that I am not sure about could anyone give me any Idea if it is a Sandman or not? 8M70LFL338112J 3 / 76 BHJ51644A GVM 1860 HJWM70 body 184204 - A trim 1896- 64V Paint 567- 15942 eng L20 Trans M20 Axle GV7 Any help appreciated Mike81973 Purpul Police Edited by user Wednesday, 21 April 2010 10:13:01 AM(UTC)
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Mike, either could be Sandmans. Look for original console mounts on both and full length headlining attachment strip on the HJ.
Not sure what you mean about the story with Melbourne built utes?
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Hi again,
I thought that the M on the HQ might stand for Melbourne, were Sandmans built in Melbourne, and if so what would be the identification detals of theses?
The ute is a Belmont ute by the numbers, I seem to recall that they mainly had 161 engines in Belmonts? not 253s like this one.
I have not had the carpet out of the ute but it appears to never had a centre consol, I know when they had bench seats they did not have any form of consol, but I dont recall if any 4 speeds came without consols or not.
It also does not have sports instruments did the early Sandmans have sports instruments?
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Hi Mike.
There are many variations in Sandman equipment levels between the 4 model series, but AFAIK every Sandman made got a centre console & GTS instruments.
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Dr Terry is right, every Sandman had GTS instruments and centre console. In HQ and HJ, option M11 (centre console) was a component of the XX7 package. You couldnt get M11 on any other commercial. You could get a seat separatoe (D55) which used the same rear console bracket but only M11 had the front bracket forward of the shifter.
Yes the Dandenong, Melbourne plant built Sandmans, and for HQ and HJ most of those I have recorded are utes. Dandenong assembled its own ute bodies but built its vans from Adelaide bodies.
Most Sandmans appear to have been V8 models by what I have recorded, but you are correct most HQ Belmonts had 6 cylinders but not 161, they were 173 or 202. However in HQ a 6cyl Belmont ute (180) is a different model to a V8 Belmont (280), and the standard engine for a V8 Belmont is a 253.
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Hello just thought I would try and post some photos of our new van we bought from Wagga NSW, it had been sheded and had two owners...still have manual in glovebox in mint condition...included ID tags for you to include in your statistics [img][/img]http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/jennie285/Sandman%20Pics/Photo0221.jpg http://i1025.photobucket...%20Sandman/DSC00855.jpg
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I already have the details off this van. Very nice unrestored survivor, but shame about the side windows. It is the ONLY 1978 plated Pagewood Sandman I have yet recorded. Could even be the last if it was built in very late May 1978 as Pagewood stopped ute and van construction in mid June 1978.
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Yes it is a shame about the windows, but you cant have everything..lol. although they are not very popular, side windows, in October 1976 were an additional $86 on top of base rate. (custom vans and trucks No2 summer 1976 just bought from ebay and a hive of info)a 1976 sandman with all options cost $8095. There were a couple of broken things, which I picked up at a wreckers in Forbes today, one air vent, and a new grille...Needs new exhaust,windscreen, some brake cups, but nothing to much of a problem. No rust, just faded paint and scratched decals....Interesting to know it could have been one of the last built in Dandanong,we used to own a 78 HS but know nothing about it now, chassis number BHZ 17242B we believe that this vehicle was rolled and written off by the next owner in about sept 86. If you have this engine number maybe it has been resurected.
Engine number is very faded and may have been QR999109...if you can shed any light on this we would love to know
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Pagewood build, not Dandenong.
I dont have BHZ17242B recorded unfortunately.
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Oh okay I was told Dandenong I will consult the expert who told me Dandenong....thanks for your input...okay she must have really died :( I really wish she had not been written off.....
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The S on the end of the chassis number tells you it was built in the Pagewood, Sydney plant. The body was constructed in the Elizabeth, Adelaide plant. AFAIK Dandenong had stopped van production by 1978. Utes stopped during HX.
There isnt a Sandman expert. Thats why I wrote my original web page and an currently writing a book on them so that people will have a point of reference.
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Dr Terry is right, every Sandman had GTS instruments and centre console. In HQ and HJ, option M11 (centre console) was a component of the XX7 package. You couldnt get M11 on any other commercial. You could get a seat separatoe (D55) which used the same rear console bracket but only M11 had the front bracket forward of the shifter.
Yes the Dandenong, Melbourne plant built Sandmans, and for HQ and HJ most of those I have recorded are utes. Dandenong assembled its own ute bodies but built its vans from Adelaide bodies.
Most Sandmans appear to have been V8 models by what I have recorded, but you are correct most HQ Belmonts had 6 cylinders but not 161, they were 173 or 202. However in HQ a 6cyl Belmont ute (180) is a different model to a V8 Belmont (280), and the standard engine for a V8 Belmont is a 253.
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Thanks for that, I should have given you the chassis number of this 5 / 74 ute, it is EH 25738 M ( it is not one I have seen before?) Mike81973 Purpul Police |
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EHQ25738M will be the number.
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Interesting HG on ebay at the minute http://cgi.ebay.com.au/w...90427097548#description
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I saw that last night. HK-HG V8 vans are very rare. This is only a low spec one (253 3spd) but still scarce as the proverbial. Youd be getting really excited if it was a factory 307 4spd HK or 308 4sp HT/G!
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Great forum - have been checking my old HQ Kingswood ute, have had it for nearly 30 years. Didnt realise it was likely to be a Sandman until I came across this forum and your MonaroParts site Bryon. It is Acacia Ridge built with XX7 on main plate, L31, M21, GV2, 5/75 build and seating capacity 2 and chrome yellow colour. Will send you body/chassis - what other numbers do I need to send you to confirm Sandman or not? Do you have many HQ Sandman Utes recorded? Thanks Iain |
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Would love the numbers as HQ Sandman utes are very scarce. Send me all ID details off the 3 x plates but only the build date, chassis number and seating acapacity off the ADR plate.
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