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the best way to tell if YOUR van is a sandman is above the back window there will be a long toothy kind of thing ,these were welded from "inside" the panel ...check that or for marks of that,it held the full length roof lining ...heres a pic.HALF WAY DOWN THE PAGE courtesy of Byron,I THINK THEY DID THIS ON HQ BUT BYRON WILL KNOW MORE.
Jim, HQ Sandman didn't have the full headlining. HJ onwards got the full headlining.
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Worth a try!!...lol,thats why I said "think",wasn't real sure..thanxz how about the "wiring " comment?sounds right to me. Edited by user Sunday, 27 March 2011 8:48:26 PM(UTC)
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According to Byrons info only the Kingswood utes got courtesy lights in HQ and HJ Sandman. The vans and utes that were base models basically got what was standard on a base model + the GTS Sandman bits.
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Correct. It was HX and HZ Sandmans that were effectively Holden plated Kingswoods. HX and HZ Sandman probably would have been based upon Kingswood if it wasn't for the side and tailgate strips, as they got most Kingswood features plus some GTS frontal treatments. HQ and HJ Bemont/Holden Sandman were very much still the model they were based upon hence no interior light switches unless optioned. |
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Byron ,surely "HQ sandmans" would of had interior lights on their options?I think its another "clue" to add to his list.yes/no? |
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No. They had an interior light, but only got the door switches standard if Kingswood ute based (unless otherwise optioned). |
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Appears genuine but a wee bit far away from me to take a look sadly http://www.trademe.co.nz...an/auction-368360942.htm
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Appears genuine but a wee bit far away from me to take a look sadly
http://www.trademe.co.nz...n/auction-368360942.htm
There is a good "how not to fit a rear sway bar to your van" pic. U bolts straight over the rear brake lines...... Very cheap Sandy at the moment, wish it was here in Aust.
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It went for $855, that's close to a fair price since it needed alot of work and didn't come with all of the hard/expensive-to-get items.
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How many HQ Sandman utes do you have listed now? Mine might be finished this year, after 6 years getting painted. (Never tell a panelbeater your not in a hurry)
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Not many, from memory less than 10. I'll look them up when I get a chance. |
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We can make it to page 60. Soooo...what gear box options does a sandman 253 manual have?
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what gear box options does a sandman 253 manual have?
I believe that the M20 manual was standard, with the M21 & M40 (T-bar) as options. Maybe Byron could elaborate. Dr Terry |
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Even less than that as far as any evidence I have for HJ-HZ, 3.05:1 (1st) M20 as standard and optional M40 is about it. Console shift would come as standard regardless. I'm pretty sure HQ is the same but I don't have the HQ ordering procedure or similar stuff listing HQ Sandman (as it was such a short lived option package in HQ). So you could option M21 behind 253 in passenger vehicles but not on commercial as far as I am aware, if you could it'd only be in HQ.
Sometimes I find I need more than one piece of evidence though as often GMH literature makes mistakes and Dr Terry might have some evidence I don't. For example HQ Sandman sales brochure lists a 3.05:1 1st gear M20 as standard for 173 and 202 engine. However all the 6cyl examples I have recorded have M22 on the BODY plate. HQ ordering procedure when I looked at one last states that the 3.74:1 M20 box (later called M22) is standard. Hence as an example why i'm sometimes cagey on some stuff! |
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hi guys, i was wondering if someone could help me i am about to purchase a 05 78 hz van and i think it is a sandman but not 100% could someone decifer the plates please they read model hz 8wm70
body 414818 a
trim 1928 19v
paint 568 80519
eng l31 trans m21 axl gv4
vin plate reads 8m70thl4148132
seating 2
thanks greg
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It isn't a Sandman, but looks pretty close. You have mistyped a couple of digits too. The last digit on the VIN is a Z, and the second last has to match the BODY number (3 or 8, one is wrong). Check that it is actually 19V and not 18V too. Is the GVW 1950kg or 2200kg? |
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Here's a 6 cyl HJ Sandman http://www.ebay.com.au/i...ff&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1195
It will be interesting to see what the plates <cough> sorry... 'wreck' sells for.
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Very rare Sandman, being one with 14V trim, but being a 6cyl not very desirable. 14V (Dove Grey on Kingswood, Grey on Holden) is not very common at all especially on Sandman. |
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Am looking at purchasing a rolling chassis van HZ , it has XU3 stamped plate with 2200 GVM . Are all XU3 stamped vehicles a Sandman ? Having difficulty with hood lining clips etc but worth investigating i feel. I owned an original HX Aquarius coloured Sandy back in the 80's and just can't seem to get em out of my blood.
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XU3 is a Sandman, it is the original Sandman special vehicle package, same basic specification as the original HQ and early HJ Sandmans. The Sandman with de-rated GVW came later in HJ. However the BODY plate stating XU3 simply means the original vehicle was a Sandman, the body may not be original to the tags. |
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