I think it may be different now, but it used to only be a $75 fine an no points, so the idiots who think they look cool with their w@nker lights on in daylight on a clear day just had to cough up each time they were (rarely) caught.

Then there is the imbeciles who have a car where they factory has wired them correctly (eg VN-VS SS commodore) and the fog lights cut the headlights - they drive around at night with the fog lights on, and no headlights - the morons think reduced visibility is even cooler at night....

Another prob is the lack of distinction between a low, wide angle fog light beam, and the driving light beam that some of these "fog" lights have - that really blind oncoming traffic.


It needs to be a $200+ fine and 3 points. 2 of my cars have them factory fitted, and I have used them only twice in 4 years - on both occasions in pea-soup fog, where they lit up the lane reflectors very well, but did little else!

Cheers,

Mick
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I hate these fog lights as well, they are distracting during the day, and thereby not assisting in road safety? further so are people with headlights on during day, as well as high beam on during day? also, i have found a big danger on the roads, are the turkeys who drive at 5>15k under the speed limit,[or more]... speed!!! in the whole of mankinds history, has never killed anyone yet?? conversly,,difference in speed has maimed and killed many. eg. a car doing 100k.s meeting a tree doing 0,kph, real mess!!!!. space ship doing 340,000 kph, meeting ground 0,kph even bigger mess??
Have no idea, why my post, for a Post, for anyone in here who wants to let out steam,anger or even have a bitch,,,,, was taken off??
saves doing it in other posts?

i hate them as well but now they call them driving lights not fog lights???????i had a win with the qld police and are going to see there speed camera manual there not happy lol

In NZ, there are two distinct classifications in the WOF check. Fog lights, which can only be operated when the headlights are off, and driving lights, which can operate simultaneously. There is nothing, however, which dictates which is which. So if you buy a pair of aftermarket lights, then you can wire them up either way.

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Keep the shiny side up, and the greasy side down.

I agree with Dr Terry on night driving I suffer from short sightedness and wear glass. With on coming head lights its bad enough with these new ultra white globes let alone having four sets of lights hit you in the face. We had an episode reciently where my wife was driving and she had a mild head ache and a guy was driving with "uped" lights so when my wife "flashed" him he responded with that many driving lights she had to pull over as she was temporarily blinded. This fellow would be laughing his head off thinking it was so funny, it could have cost a family of 6 their lives.

When the green flag drops the bulls@#t stops!!

I agree with you guys,these so called fog lights - driving lights or whatever are just a gimmick by the manufacturers.They are on my car from the factory and they are a waste of time.I never use them,I suspect its just another way of charging you more for the car.

wow.. some of you are pretty passionate about this... :S
i used to have a mazda mx6, it had foggies, and they would only go on when you had the lights on. you could flick them on and off, but couldnt turn them on without the lights.

had all white globes aswell.. looked almost blue. :p *sigh*

i know what your all getting at though, it was pretty damn ****, and totally unneccesary.


NOW, what REALLY bothers me is 4wds.

i honestly think they should be banned from the city completely, and not alowed in any inner suburbs. also, bullbars should be completley banned from all cars that arent registered in a rural area.
NOTHING ****s me more on the road than little-dicked bastards in lifted GQ patrols, or halfwit mums cruising around in 100series landcruisers with huge steel bullbars and spotties.
theyre nothing but a danger, and debating a cars lighting pales in comparison.

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Hey mackv8,,
you wanna buy another ambulance early next year?? xf 88..??? worth a try? hey??

now RdS.. I think roo bars, save far more lives than they take? having hit 2.?? maybe??,,,and have your thoughts on this?? just make all roo bars have rubber surrounds, on front parts?? I know this wont save anyone at speed? but if it is speed, then any car will do heaps damage to someone?
I have no doubt,,that without my roo bar? i would have been wearing a big red,,as we speak? and probably dead?? cause the bar bounced him away from the screen?
cheers

Running lights - or as the US call them "DRL" - Daytime running lamps, have strict design criteria, with regards to light output, beam spread, and wattage (which I think youre trying to allude to there Jvanner).

These are supposed to run all the time while the car is on - and it is the law in numerous US states.

The little lights on the VZ monaros are the equivalent of what the yanks use as DRLs - whats on the front of a VZ SS is not a DRL.

Cheers,

Mick
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Im with you all about these damn running lights.
Either have your parkers and runners on or just your headlights...NOT BOTH!
Most cars are becoming nightmares at night coming head-on and dangerous when raining.
Ive been tempted to carry a hammer with me and pop a few out.
Anyone noticed how bright AU F@lc%n headlights are on low beam?
Alot of reflective area in those lights and coming head on you think...do i flash them or not?...you can pick an AU coming at you.
My whinge for the night...but one that needs looking at.

Cheers....Mario