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#41 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 7:57:32 AM(UTC)
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XW8 is a production option code, these codes are designated by group. eg C60 = air conditioning, FE2 is sports suspension.

Vehicle packages come from different areas, some state A and others X. Some X type are

XU1
XU3 = Sandman
XW4 = Vacationer

Some of the As are
A9X
A9K
A9H

So to identify them some quote the vehicle option code rather than the vehicle. This helps in some case, eg A9K turns a base model into a lower model, In HZ the base model was aKingswood SL so to make a Kingswood you ordered A9K, this removed a lot of the features and vertually turned the car into an HX Belmont equivilent.

Vehicle option packs are used a lot, if you consider they only made three models in each Commodore range up to VZ, everything else was a vehicle option pack, SS, Equip, Calais wagon, Acclaim, 50th anniversary, Olympic, 25th anniversary, SV6 to name a few. Then you have to add all the HSV packs.

L group are engines, L34 is an engine option but includes other things, eg C60 includes HD radiator, Heavy duty battery, tinted side glass. L30 is the engine code for a 350 when optioned in an HQ other than a GTS 350. L30 is also the engine code for a 307 in an HK and HT, but as this engine was nLA then the code could be used for something else, also quite common. L34 was to be the code for the 327 in HK, as the TS 327 was going to be on option vehicle rather than a seperate model. It bacame a model at the last minute. (no other top of the line sports car from GM-H was given a model code, Brabham, XU1 SLR5000 and L34, A(X and SS commodore are not models but option packages)

The 39 in the casting number is the GM part number prefix, like 74 for HK, 28 for HT, 99 for mid HQ etc

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XW8 is a production option code, these codes are designated by group. eg C60 = air conditioning, FE2 is sports suspension.

Vehicle packages come from different areas, some state A and others X. Some X type are

XU1
XU3 = Sandman
XW4 = Vacationer
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#43 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 8:58:12 AM(UTC)
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this information is great , i have only recently started with google and reading info , Warren , what others have reserached years and months to learn we as members on this forum get instantly , credit goes out to you and all memebers for shareing , the
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#44 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 8:58:12 AM(UTC)
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this information is great , i have only recently started with google and reading info , Warren , what others have reserached years and months to learn we as members on this forum get instantly , credit goes out to you and all memebers for shareing , the part number i saw , was stamped L240 and then within the casting of the part it had DELLOW SYD, that was raised letters ,would have been done in the foundry , i thought i would ask the question , if there was a link in L240 and L340. whats the scoop with That book , it is that high in demmand , i am suprised china has counterfitted it and sold it on the black market , i tell you what it would probably sell more copies that Malboro cigs would in a week . LOL

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#45 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 9:00:25 AM(UTC)
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the 3970010 block was also used for some late 327 applications

the chevy by numbers book lists a reference of the 010 to nickel content,
also compare, 3970014 (LA built camaro), and 3970020, which are higher nickel again.

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#46 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 9:00:25 AM(UTC)
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the 3970010 block was also used for some late 327 applications

the chevy by numbers book lists a reference of the 010 to nickel content,
also compare, 3970014 (LA built camaro), and 3970020, which are higher nickel again.

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#47 Posted : Thursday, 3 January 2008 7:42:46 PM(UTC)
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As far as I am aware the 3970010 was only ever used in 350 and 302 applications, not in any 327s. Although I suppose it's possible as the 3970010 casting was first used in 1969 and there were some 327's built as late as 1969. I have 6 or 7 casting numbers
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As far as I am aware the 3970010 was only ever used in 350 and 302 applications, not in any 327s. Although I suppose its possible as the 3970010 casting was first used in 1969 and there were some 327s built as late as 1969. I have 6 or 7 casting numbers listed for any 1969 327, but they dont include 3970010.

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#49 Posted : Friday, 4 January 2008 12:21:54 AM(UTC)
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I have a mate that has a HQ GTS coupe fitted with a 350 originally from a HQ Statesman. He swears it is an original motor and it doesnt have the 11QU engine prefix. Instead it has the two US engine numbers yet he swears he knew this motor from new was an original 350 statesman model. Is it possible that Holden just got motors from the states and put them straight in without number stamping? My guess is that it is very possible they did !!! If you recieved a whole shippment of 350s that all had stamping on them by mistake would you wait 3 months plus to get the correct shipment from the states or just stick em in the cars and use the numbers already stamped on the blocks? By the way it is an 3970010 with a date code that would be correct for the HQ
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I have a mate that has a HQ GTS coupe fitted with a 350 originally from a HQ Statesman. He swears it is an original motor and it doesn't have the 11QU engine prefix. Instead it has the two US engine numbers yet he swears he knew this motor from new was an
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Bryon,
i guess i depends on where you get your info
3970010 1968 327
http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php

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Bryon,
i guess i depends on where you get your info
3970010 1968 327
http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php

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#53 Posted : Friday, 4 January 2008 4:30:33 AM(UTC)
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thats the same place i got mine from
googled the casting number and kept reading


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#54 Posted : Friday, 4 January 2008 4:30:33 AM(UTC)
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thats the same place i got mine from
googled the casting number and kept reading


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I have a mate that has a HQ GTS coupe fitted with a 350 originally from a HQ Statesman. H
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I have a mate that has a HQ GTS coupe fitted with a 350 originally from a HQ Statesman. He swears it is an original motor and it doesnt have the 11QU engine prefix. Instead it has the two US engine numbers yet he swears he knew this motor from new was an original 350 statesman model. Is it possible that Holden just got motors from the states and put them straight in without number stamping? My guess is that it is very possible they did !!! If you recieved a whole shippment of 350s that all had stamping on them by mistake would you wait 3 months plus to get the correct shipment from the states or just stick em in the cars and use the numbers already stamped on the blocks? By the way it is an 3970010 with a date code that would be correct for the HQ


Ive actually seen a HQ Statesman with its original 350 engine, that only had the Canadian stamp (has to be a Canadian stamp - no HQ had a USA block). It was an export HQ that never left the country. These had no Australian engine number, ADR plate or chassis number. I seriously doubt any Holden destined for Australian delivery ever left the factory minus the 11QU or QU bit though.

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#57 Posted : Saturday, 5 January 2008 9:29:42 PM(UTC)
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what do the letters after the casting numbers mean on the L30 QU engine Example K 9 or K 11

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what do the letters after the casting numbers mean on the L30 QU engine Example K 9 or K 11

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The engine assembly plant does not stamp the engine number on a Chevrolet engine as they have diferent codes depending on the type of vehicle they go in. So the assembly plant only ever stamped a date code and then shipped the engine to an assembly plant.
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The engine assembly plant does not stamp the engine number on a Chevrolet engine as they have diferent codes depending on the type of vehicle they go in. So the assembly plant only ever stamped a date code and then shipped the engine to an assembly plant.

They were required then to have an engine number stamped on them for Australian registration. So I think your friend is luck enough to have the right date code imported later block.

The history of some cars is interesting and many owners cars have been "modied" without the owner knowing. I know a fellow that had his enigne recoed yet when I looked at the car the block was a later US block, the best one though was a fellow was having trouble with his GTS 327 that he had owned from new, so he took it to a carby specialist to find the proble was the 72 308 auto carby that someone had fitted. He was not happy about someone changing it without telling him, he had never paid for a new or recoed carby, somone "stole it" in the workshop.

The letter is the assembly plant and the next numbers are day and month of completion.

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