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#61 Posted : Thursday, 29 January 2009 7:41:35 AM(UTC)
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I try to put a bit of cash away each week for the project. Every time I get to $500 bucks I buy another piece of the jigsaw. Also, NEVER reveal the true
cost of parts to wife/girlfriend/mistress/ boyfriend. They tend to get jealous.
Other sanity preservers for me are beer fridge nearby and radio for the cricket.
I also religiously collect any plastic container with a lid, ice cream, pill jars, takeaway food, all so usefull.
And some sturdy shelving, so ya dont have to root through everything to find that clip that holds the bonnet cable to the radiator support panel!
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#62 Posted : Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:13:34 AM(UTC)
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, NEVER reveal the true
cost of parts to wife/girlfriend/mistress/ boyfriend. They tend to get jealous.


Thats my ploy too, though I think she has her suspicions.
Then, when her car needs rego, insurance, tyres etc, I just pay it and problem solved.
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#63 Posted : Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:51:35 AM(UTC)
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Hi guys, I know this has been said but you cant enforce this enough bag bolts, nuts, fittings etc and tag them, take lots of photos, Im a diesel mechanic and work for Caterpillar at a rebuild centre, we bag and tag everything even if we have pulled down the same trany, engine, machine, component a hundred times always follow the basics and have a manual at ahnd if possible.... it will make life easier and if you cant finish the job the next bloke will have half a clue.

Sorry for not logging in Im a Ford guy but i do like reading this side of the forum.
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, 10 February 2009 8:07:50 PM(UTC)
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HEAD GASKETS etc...

If you ever want to take your Cylinder Head off, and plan to leave the Block/Pistons exposed for some time, I found this works well:

Blow out the Pots Immediately once the Head is off,

Position the Pistons so that NONE of them are at TDC,

With Clean hands, take some fingers full of Clean Grease and carefully pack a 10-20mm edge around/into the Piston to Cylinder Wall corners,

Tear some small single ply strips of dunny paper and pat them onto the Grease - not too much paper, (this gives the Grease a more versatile surface (ie- allows bigger particles to be gently blown out when finishing),

Notes
1. If your Block is outside in the hot Sun use Hi Temp Grease.
2. Do NOT Rotate the engine until the Grease is removed (ie PLAN to loosen your Cam/Crank/Flywheel Bolts BEFORE Greasing IF you need to).
3. Push Clean Cloth into your oil Galleries (below Deck height, but not too far that they cant be retreived).

Doing the job this way allows you to:

"File" the Deck-flat as opposed to "Scraping" the Deck-not flat.
also by Filing your old Gasket off, this shows up any irregularities that Scraping dosnt.
After filing I use a small piece of Flat Glass (@100mm sq) and wrap some 600wet n dry around it and finish it off (dont double it up under the glass).

At this Stage your Cylinders will look filthy (dont panic, they are protected from the Dust, Wind and even Moisture for days)

When all is done, gently blow the Big particles out,
Remove the Dunny paper, then -
ALL of the Crap can be carefully wiped out using several small pieces of CLEAN cloth for each Pot.

Finally a slightly Petrold rag will remove the Grease residue from the walls.

This system worked well when I had to come up with a way to repair a Severely Dodgy Water jacket next to a Cylinder with "Quik Metal", but thats another Story.

Hope this hasnt bored everyone...

Kev.

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#65 Posted : Wednesday, 11 February 2009 1:48:15 AM(UTC)
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one can also use clear silicon for sealing leaky exhaust
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#66 Posted : Wednesday, 11 February 2009 2:38:52 AM(UTC)
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If you want to lock your engine up to un do or do up crank pulleys and alike
or work on the front of the motor and dont want it to move==check out this TRICK...take out a cylinder spark plug and put rope inside the spark plug hole ...(leave enough outside to remove it later)...when the piston is half way down the turn the motor over (BY HAND) Till it locks up,removal is to back engine off a bit pull rope out....da .da!!PS DONT USE ANYTHING THAT WILL DAMAGE BORES.

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#67 Posted : Wednesday, 11 February 2009 6:27:38 AM(UTC)
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Good one Jim,

Goes to show ur never too old to learn new tricks eh...

Heres another one my pettite 17(& a half) y/o daughter taught me last Month ...

Shes a 2nd yr apprentice Spray painter at Mc Millan Group Sydney (formerly Bentley), theyre wrapped with her, and so is Mt Druitt Tafe (Tops the class a lot, to the envy of the Guys).
She finished school yr 10 (dont know why ??? she was good it),
She did a 3 mth Pre-App course at Tafe, and the MTA found her a placing B4 shed finished it!
So Dads think twice if Out of th Blue ur Girl says "Dad I want to leave school", just help them understand its a BIG Decision and Choice !
She knew nothing about Cars, I just knew she was good at, and enjoyed drawing and painting, mostly Folk-Art Cr#p though)

Anyway Back to THE TRICK - (4give my Rambling, another f#*king sign of old age...lol)

I was doing the Timing Belt on her N13 Pulsar (1st $999 car), but discovered that the Crankshaft Keyway had Chewed out the Crank(the Pulley was rotating a few degrees L/R on the Crank (surprising, because it was runnung ok).

Anyway - Engine out ... for Rebuild ($700 in parts L8r)

While it was out I said "Now you can Spray the Engine Bay while the engines out" (She wanted to Re-spray the whole Car from day Dot ... from " White " to " Black with Pink Pearl " ? anyhow ??

In regards to the Wiring Looms, Brake Lines,etc... I thought shed have a hard time with News paper, Masking Tape and the Like,
But "NO"...
Just use " Aluminium Foil " instead, its heaps quicker and more flexible, just crush it around !
Its also good for Shockys when Tarting up the wheel Arches with Bitumen Spray..
Just make sure theres enough left over for the Sunday Roast as this dosnt please the "Hand Brake" very much...

Kev.


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#68 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 3:49:14 AM(UTC)
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Thats a good trick Kev,Im going to use that one soon.I heard this but have never tryed it cause all my cars are oldschool..hook up a 12v battery to your cig lighter BEFORE you disconnect the battery to keep voltage thru the car so as not to dissrupt the computer etc. IS THIS TRUE?

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#69 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 4:03:40 AM(UTC)
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close Jim , you can buy a gismo with a 9 volt battery (memory device) and put that in the lighter socket(that works of corse)and it will hold the memory of the radio etc.
I usually use another car battery with jumper leads and connect them to the car leads while removing a dead battery to retain memory .
On a newer car removing a battery will also upset LPG codes and make the car very upset on gas. This case with LPG will involve getting the codes reset by a mechanic/ gas fitter.
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#70 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 5:11:21 AM(UTC)
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On a newer car removing a battery will also upset LPG codes and make the car very upset on gas. This case with LPG will involve getting the codes reset by a mechanic/ gas fitter.

To my knowledge this only happens on the Vialle system used on later Falcons. The Commodores dont have this problem. Both the old Impco & the newer BRC injection systems have no learning or memory issues at all.

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#71 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 9:25:16 AM(UTC)
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Na, it was a bigger issue than the radio ,it was something to do with not having to reseting the computer or something like that.He was a very good mec
he use to work on the rpo83.

Jim in adelaide

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#72 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 4:18:34 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by cloudy

On a newer car removing a battery will also upset LPG codes and make the car very upset on gas. This case with LPG will involve getting the codes reset by a mechanic/ gas fitter.

To my knowledge this only happens on the Vialle system used on later Falcons. The Commodores dont have this problem. Both the old Impco & the newer BRC injection systems have no learning or memory issues at all.

Dr Terry
this happened on our VS statesman , the battery died and when replaced the car ran very rough on gas , I took it to the LPG installer and when he put his computer on it he asked if i had changed the battery , he said it had upset the code and then told me about the memory device.
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Cloudy, I do this for a living & not too many cars engine computers are affected by disconnecting/reconnecting the battery.

Early cars (VL-VP & EA-ED etc.) & most Jap & Euro stuff could have their fault code memory erased by leaving the battery off. But there was no relearning routine except for idle speed which takes only seconds. Later stuff needs a scanner to erase fault code memory.

The only cars on the market Ive seen any re-learning difficulties with are later Mitsubishis with their fuzzy logic automatic transmissions. When these things get to high mileage it can takes weeks for the auto to change gear properly after a battery swap. I think this was more bad design than clever electronics !!

The cigarette lighter memory thing is to retain memory for radios & any other accessory memory.

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#74 Posted : Thursday, 12 February 2009 7:02:14 PM(UTC)
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Dr T...
That makes sense, because the Cigarette Lighter is only IN Circuit when Accessories(ACC) is switched(keyed) "ON".
Maybe the later vialle Falcons have their Cig Lighters wired BATT instead of ACC ?

This would also suggest that the Lighter Gizmos (Cloudy mentioned) dont work unless your Key is switched to ACC ??

This makes me think(Warn), ... You wouldnt want to use the Gizmo if you were going to work on/around the Starter/Alternator areas would you ?, ... They must be limited in saving Memory in all situations ??
Maybe a Sparky here could clarify things ???

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Hi Kev.

Yes, you are correct. These 9V memory cig lighter gizmo are as useless as tits on a bull. Most modern cars have the cig lighter wired to either accessories or ignition. This means that the ignition switch has to be in one of these two positions for the memory thing to work. If you have the ignition on, all the ignition circuit loads will then be asked to go back thru the cig lighter fuse. The fuse will not handle it & will blow. The little 9V battery wont like it much either !!

As I said very few cars have memory issues with the engine ECU. Ive never had to use the cig lighter gizmo. As cloudy said, we usually just use a set of jumper leads to a second car battery to avoid loosing the radio codes. Saves a lot of mucking around.

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#76 Posted : Friday, 13 February 2009 3:13:39 AM(UTC)
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Having read all the info I would have to agree, it is better to use the battery cables idea mentioned by Cloudy,especially if running that paticular gas set up.Not too good if you have to weld thou.!(apparentlly)...
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#77 Posted : Sunday, 15 February 2009 4:24:37 AM(UTC)
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Go learn how to do the shopping and everytime you pay for it get an extra $20 out to go toward your project. The Mrs will never know.

Skim skim skim if she dont let you have too much cash and

If you got a screw to put in a tight situation use this trick.
Put your screw driver on the magnet of an old speaker to magnitize the screw driver so the screw sticks to it

http://boogermobile.blogspot.com/

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#78 Posted : Sunday, 15 February 2009 6:39:50 AM(UTC)
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Heres a "other half" tip that I have used with great success.

Get her a project of her own. I found the missus a VG Valiant Coupe so she didnt even bat an eyelid when I trucked home a HQ Monaro in bits (even though the sandman and HZ GTS werent finished.
The only side effect is that you will have to spend a bit of time working on hers, so make sure its something you like a little bit too.
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#79 Posted : Sunday, 15 February 2009 7:04:17 AM(UTC)
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I recently bought a 73 HQ sedan that someone had spent $15,000 on and I paid $5,000 this is the best trick I can recommend.
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#80 Posted : Sunday, 15 February 2009 7:46:20 AM(UTC)
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Yeah to all the above,And also its funny how someone can and usually do spend bucket loads on a car then just stop and sell it for alot less.(you just keep on asking them to sell.)Probably the best trick really.

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