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i was under the impression the monaro bodies were only made in brisbane and adelaide????
so a train would come to brisbane with other body, engines and components and take back monaro shells to sydney?? and adelaide shells went to melbourne????
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If that were correct all Sydney and Melbourne coupe shells would have had Brisbane and Adelaide chassis numbers. At least I think that would be the case.
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Quote i have seen the same thing on hg with A chassis but perth vin, i take it this is because perth didnt build the bodys and got them from adelaide like a ckd Bosko that seems to be the case to some degree Adelaide supplied bodys that were semi finished to Perth. Then the final assembly was done here. With the HQs at least I have been told by ex employees from the Mossman Park plant the bodys were sent by train to WA, with the bodys mainly complete from the firewall back but with no rear wheels fitted. Once they got here the front chassis/motor and gearbox and front panels etc were fitted here. (I have been told the front panels were painted here to.) This is why they have Perth chassis numbers and Perth vin plates but Adelaide body plates. I have yet to find anything newer than these models but here are a couple of pictures of Holden bodies on the train in Perth.   Sorry about the size but they need to be this big to see them correctly. Cheers Paul.
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Hence this. 
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i have seen the same thing on hg with A chassis but perth vin, i take it this is because perth didnt build the bodys and got them from adelaide like a ckd
Bosko that seems to be the case to some degree Adelaide supplied bodys that were semi finished to Perth.
Then the final assembly was done here.
With the HQs at least I have been told by ex employees from the Mossman Park plant the bodys were sent by train to WA, with the bodys mainly complete from the firewall back but with no rear wheels fitted.
Once they got here the front chassis/motor and gearbox and front panels etc were fitted here.
(I have been told the front panels were painted here to.)
This is why they have Perth chassis numbers and Perth vin plates but Adelaide body plates.
Im pretty sure they were always like this. Same with Pagewood and Dandenong assembled vans (except HQ in Pagewood, not sure about Dandenong HQ). The reason for the difference is early stuff (in this case say HG) has the chassis number on the firewall hence it gets the Elizabeth ADR tag to match plus the BODY plate. Pagewood. Mosman Park etc VIN is added when assembled. HQ-HZ gets the assembly plant ADR plate as the chassis number is stamped at the assembly plant. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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i was under the impression the monaro,s shell,s were made in brisbane and adelaide e.g once the shell was was welded together
it was stamped the it plant location i.e b or s brisbane one,s would move on the the main brisbane line the s one,s wre shipped
back to sydney this is why you see the B,B or S,S so while we know the assemble plants of the hk,s the body were born else where.
im sure warren could shed light on this one.
i love the above pics.
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need help. have a hk monaro with fireall number ending in m (which i thought meant melbourne) but under it it has a S stamped. is it a sydney car or melb car. i want to check what is correct on the id tags. i am hoping its not a dud i looking at.
Hello Nick, Several Monaros like this are known and there would have been quite a few more made back in the day. What you are looking at is a Melbourne bodied, Sydney assembled HK Monaro. A hard trimmed (i.e. painted and with glass, etc. installed) body from Dandenong was sent to Pagewood for final assembly. All mechanicals were installed in Sydney. This car will (or should) have a Melbourne Body ID plate, Melboune Chassis Number (which it has from what you say) and a Sydney VIN. The S character stamped in the firewall was added in Sydney. Hope this helps out.
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i was under the impression the monaro,s shell,s were made in brisbane and adelaide e.g once the shell was was welded together
it was stamped the it plant location i.e b or s brisbane one,s would move on the the main brisbane line the s one,s wre shipped
back to sydney this is why you see the B,B or S,S so while we know the assemble plants of the hk,s the body were born else where.
im sure warren could shed light on this one.
i love the above pics.
Hello Pete, HK-G Monaros were built (bodywise) at four assembly plants. They were final-assembled at five assembly plants. Holden had plants for body assembly, vehicle assembly and for both. The Mosman Park (Perth) assembly plant was a vehicle assembly plant only. Hope this answers your questions.
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Hi shifty.
If Pagewood already made Monaro bodies, why would they need some from Dandenong. Was this a to perhaps fill a short supply issue or was their some other reason.
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Hi shifty.
If Pagewood already made Monaro bodies, why would they need some from Dandenong. Was this a to perhaps fill a short supply issue or was their some other reason.
Dr Terry
Hello Dr Terry, Very good question. I have no idea as to why in this case. The HK engineering specifications publication draws attention to the fact that body assemblies were to be identified in a specific way with the body assembly plant indicated as well as the final vehicle assembly plant also identified. The HT engineering publication makes no mention of this so one would have to assume the practice was done away with in this series. In HK series, AM, AS, AP, MS have been noted. There may be more combinations not yet noted. Ben Stewart.
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so the big tag (alloy) would have melb numberas and the little tage sydney numbers ???... All getting qiuet confusing now
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That is correct.
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so the big tag (alloy) would have melb numberas and the little tage sydney numbers ???... All getting qiuet confusing now
Hello Nick, Spot on. Many thanks for the quick response to the email. It can be confusing as this variation from the norm is not common in Monaros. Ben Stewart.
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