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I am in the process at the moment of doing some rust repairs to a HG Brougham rear. Just to let you know that a standard Rare Spares HG sedan rear beaver panel does fit. I trimmed it a little bit as it was a bit bigger (better than starting out smaller). It fit ok, and certainly was a lot easier than making a new panel from flat sheetmetal. The lower quarter panel sections are a bit more of a challenge though. The Brougham being a lot longer in the rear, and no lower rust sections available. I have made up new intermediate sections and will be using the front and rear of the lower quarter panel rust sections available to make up the ends. Then there is all of the inner panels I have made for these panels to weld to. Looking closely at the rust in any old car, you will find it starts from something like an old window rubber that leaks, and the water runs down inside the quarter panels, and then the insides of both the inner and outer quarter panel will rust. Anyway, anything can be remade, it is easy, it just takes time. http://www.ehlimo.com.au/ |
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Got any pictures of your work? I love seeing how people tackle issues like this. Luckily all my holdens are nice and rust free (with the exception of an EH i found under a tree at my mates inlaws farm) but the mrs has a VG Valiant Coupe with a factory Vynil rust attracting roof, not to mention the stupid trunk extensions in the boot floor whose sole purpose seems to be to trap water and rust lower quarter panels.
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Hey Peter I just spotted this very old post about replacing a Brougham beaver panel. I'm right in the middle of doing the same on my HK Bro using an original HT panel that I've unpicked. The HT panel is totally different to the Brougham (which only becomes obvious when you go to fit it) as the Brougham rear quarters taper up much thinner under the bumper, so from a profile view the HT tucks under way too far and the is the wrong shape. The question is. How the hell did you manage to make yours fit? It looks to be some serious fabrication work. Cheers Peter Edited by user Monday, 21 February 2011 4:58:33 AM(UTC)
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The new rear beaver only comes up to the bottom of the bumper, so anything behind or above the bumper was not touched.
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I have to do one in the future on a HT,same sections and a rear dogleg. Do you have some photos? Brian Edited by user Monday, 21 February 2011 11:26:14 PM(UTC)
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The repro beaver panels go right up to the lights don't they? If I was replacing just the section under the bumper it would be far easier to get a section rolled to suit as the repro part has to be so heavily modified for the Brougham you may as well start from sratch.
Brian are you doing a Brougham?
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The Rare Spares panel only goes to just under the bottom of the bumper bar. |
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Yes Peter, have one in the shed 99.9( a wiring issue cropped up after replacing a bulb in the dash) finished and one in the back yard that will be started after the panno is on the road-- Will have somewhere to sleep then (-: . Only one half of the beaver is gone, as the car was on a slope, but both lower quarters will need the gear and one dogleg on the same side as the beaver. Boot is surprisingly good though, even in the spare wheel area. Brian |
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If the rust is low in the panel my suggestion would be to cut up to the crease below the bumper and unpick it underneath. Rat a section of panel from a sedan (you wont have to unpick this underneath as the section with the spot welds will be turfed) but make it a section toward the middle as the contours on the outer ends are the problem.
If I'd been smart enough to spot this before I started I would have saved many hours and much grief.
Oh ... Cut the donor before cutting yours so you can lay the donor panel over yours as a template.
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thanks Pete, that sounds like a good idea. Also, as simple as your last line reads... there was a risk of me doing just that and fumbled along, even though i have done this before...Slow learner i guess!! I'll be sectioning a repair panel for the quarters like peter_flane I guess to get the length. But thats a car rebuild away as yet. Luckily, no rust at all in the van, just a hole for a four speed thats got to be filled.
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ive cut wagon bottoms off & used them as they are exactly the same as brougham & just need lengthening at back end ive also used panelvan lowers & modify th w/arch lip a little (easily done)& lengthen back, same as wagon www.bellarineclassicautos.com.au
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thanks Pete, that sounds like a good idea. Also, as simple as your last line reads... there was a risk of me doing just that and fumbled along, even though i have done this before...Slow learner i guess!! I'll be sectioning a repair panel for the quarters like peter_flane I guess to get the length. But thats a car rebuild away as yet. Luckily, no rust at all in the van, just a hole for a four speed thats got to be filled.
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