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#1 Posted : Monday, 20 July 2009 10:01:58 PM(UTC)
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Hey all,

Im just trying to figure-out whether the VK EFI trimatic transmission is the same as a V8 trimatic, internally??

And also,
Can I run a TE gemini Torque converter with that transmission. What are the pro's and cons? Will I get better response and pickup?

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#2 Posted : Monday, 20 July 2009 10:03:46 PM(UTC)
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They are beefed up more than a 6cyl trimatic and they also run V8 speedo drive gear. Probably similar to a 253 trimatic.

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#3 Posted : Monday, 20 July 2009 11:32:49 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for that HK1837. Thats what my mates have been telling me. Sort of more heavy-duty than a standard 6 cylinder one.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 21 July 2009 1:04:16 AM(UTC)
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The Gemini converter will fit the trans but the snout on the converter that turns the pump is a fraction shorter than the standard 6 snout. It will work but you run the risk of the snout slipping out of the pump drive under load. Although it will give you a higher stall the Gemini converter isnt that strong.
You would be better of paying a few bucks and buying a good 6 converter.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 4:42:18 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the info. Its easier for me not to use the gemini torque converter. A lot of blokes on oldholden recommend I use a gemi converter, but they couldnt give me any pros or cons based on what it would do. My dad was saying it may put more load on the oil pump inside the transmission, and would more likely cause it to leak from the seals. I guess if theres a risk of damage happening to the torque converter, then its not worth running it. Just wanted to do a big EFI conversion for a 2.85blue VC SLE that im getting.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 4:45:04 AM(UTC)
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Thats another thing I was wondering about. Ive done hi-stall tests at Tafe, which is holding the foot on the brake whilst holding the accelerator. Is that what a hi-stall torque converter is for. i.e a 2500rpm torque converter can take off at an engine rev at 2500 rpm, if the foot is held then taken off at that rev? is it any good for anything else?

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 6:24:09 AM(UTC)
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Originally posted by Grue Pugg
WHILST holding the accelerator?

Where are these kids picking up this lingo? they cant spell for sh!t but insist on using eighteenth century English language. Along with "H series", "styleside" and "old school". Twits.

I agree with you about H series, styleside (my pet hate) & old school, but whilst is correct grammar & still in current use. While & whilst have different meanings, in similar fashion to brought & bought.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 6:54:16 AM(UTC)
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No, their meanings are basically identical (certainly nowhere near as different as bought/brought) and it is an overly used formal term that died out years ago. Now being revived by twits trying to sound intellekshal
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 11:23:54 AM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 2:25:54 PM(UTC)
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Crickey GTS308 who pushed your Shakespeare button? I would not have picked you for being a fan of the great bard.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 4:34:26 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Grue Pugg
WHILST holding the accelerator?

Where are these kids picking up this lingo? they cant spell for sh!t but insist on using eighteenth century English language. Along with "H series", "styleside" and "old school". Twits.

Well toss me in there also. Im no kid alas Im on the wrong side of 50 but I use WHILST on a regular basis.
However Im with you on the H series, styleside and old school.

Now as for twits if I remember correctly a twit is a pregnant goldfish. So why do we call stupid, uneducated fools twits?

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 6:32:11 PM(UTC)
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I dont want to turn this thread into an English grammar lesson, BUT !!

Yes, there are some circumstances where you can interchange the words while & whilst (I was a bit over the top in mentioning brought & bought), but there are times when they cannot.

While is usually used as a noun & sometimes an adverb , but whilst cant be used as a noun. It used as an adverb or a conjunction. It does sound old fashioned but so does the word against for similar reasons.

The word styleside is borrowed from the Yanks where they have pick-ups & stepsides, so why do people use it to describe a true Aussie invention, that of the coupe utility.

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 8:23:00 PM(UTC)
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While is usually used as a noun & sometimes an adverb , but whilst cant be used as a noun. It used as an adverb or a conjunction. It does sound old fashioned but so does the word against for similar reasons.


Um, seems grammatical errors persist, even when trying to explain
previous errors Dr.T.
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The intent of the posting was for automotive information rather than an English lesson. Quite obviously, we can all get it wrong. God knows, I do regularly.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 22 July 2009 8:42:27 PM(UTC)
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I dont know, these days half the fun is working out what language people are talking.
Ever get a text message from a under 18..Ahhhhhhhh! I personally dont find anything wrong with the use of the word "Whilst" but then again I still listen to "Rainbow" "Black Sabbath" and "Led Zeppelin" every day....Yea Im old!

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#15 Posted : Thursday, 23 July 2009 4:47:56 AM(UTC)
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I dont mind their there theyre kind of grammatical errors. In fact any errors I can handle. We are not special computers with on or off buttons, we are all places in between. That is what makes us human. The term "Computer error" shoots me, because the computer just pumps out what humans tell it to, just a whole lot quicker. GIGO delux (Garbage In, Garbage Out)

My pet hate is SMS speak that is so obscure it is insane. WTF YADNWIM IAROFL MFAO SYLTR WTGTMCCAS HAPDH. SISOHT. I played on BBSs in the early 90s, and some acronyms were used to make for faster real time, but not to the ridiculous levels of SMS speak

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#16 Posted : Thursday, 23 July 2009 8:20:47 AM(UTC)
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If you want to see exactly what the differences are for the trimatic range of gearboxs you may want to have a look through the Trimatic Transmission Technicians Guide which is here.
http://gallery.oldholden...h/Gearboxs/V8+Trimatic/
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