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anyone can help with more info about this car , already know the original paint colour and trim colour eg early / late build , does the S on the firewall mean SYDNEY and the M on the tag MELBOURNE ??? is this right any other thougths on this car Body : hk80737-54288-m Trim - 1172-10X Paint - 568 - 10845 vin 80737kj167...... firewall - hk26964-s Edited by user Friday, 4 September 2009 8:52:16 PM(UTC)
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Hmm. HK26964SS as a chassis number places the body shell (or firewall (or part thereof)) as an (approx) July 1968 Pagewood, Sydney built shell. However the VIN and BODY plates are off a Dandenong, Melbourne built GTS. Looks like a GTS tag swap onto another shell. Shell is still worth good money. Tags are now only a bar/wall ornament or scrap alloy.
UNLESS the chassis number reads HK26964SM (or MS - I cant remember off the top of my head which way although I think SM is correct for Sydney body manufacture, Melbourne vehicle assembly). The SS, SM or MS would appear on the firewall with the second letter underneath the other in a different font and impression depth.
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J167 makes it one of the last Monaros built, so one of the first built at Pagewood and one of the last built at Dandenong.
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[quote]Originally posted by HK1837
Hmm. HK26964SS as a chassis number places the body shell (or firewall (or part thereof)) as an (approx) July 1968 Pagewood, Sydney built shell. However the VIN and BODY plates are off a Dandenong, Melbourne built GTS. Looks like a GTS tag swap onto another shell. Shell is still worth good money. Tags are now only a bar/wall ornament or scrap alloy.
UNLESS the chassis number reads HK26964SM (or MS - I cant remember off the top of my head which way although I think SM is correct for Sydney body manufacture, Melbourne vehicle assembly). The SS, SM or MS would appear on the firewall with the second letter underneath the other in a different font and impression depth.
the other number underneath the first line of numbers is actually a S
hk 26964SS
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so from the id tags and firewall number , is there any way to know what driveline this vehicle came with from the factory
6cyl or 8 cyl , how can i tell
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As the tags do not belong to that car they are irrelevent in the equation, you can check the body for other signs to try and determine the original driveline.
But first of all you have to determine what it was, ie a Monaro, Monaro GTS or Monaro GTS327.
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ok quizzed the guy for more info when he brougth the car had no big tag on it , so he put both the tags on , he still has the small tag only original the id on correct small tag is - 80737KH532635 FIRWALL still correct at firewall - hk26964-ss with only these 2 original tags , is there anyway to know more about this vehicle now , Edited by user Sunday, 6 September 2009 9:48:34 AM(UTC)
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That looks better. Its a HK GTS, so itll be one of the following combos:
186S Opel 4spd;
186S Powerglide;
186S Saginaw 4spd;
307 4sp;
307 Powerglide.
Being a very early Pagewood HK it could still be a 307 auto and have banjo and 5" rims. So the best telltale for a 307 will be the second speedo cable hole in the firewall below the wiper motor. If thats not there youll have to look to the wiring harness for reverse switch wires for a 4spd, if not there itll be an auto. Unlikely to be a 186S Saginaw.
If it has a 307 speedo cable hole check for Saginaw linkage hump on passengers side of the transmission tunnel, basically just to the right of where the passengers right foot goes. Not there its an auto.
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where do the 4sd saginaw reverse light wires come through the floor?
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where do the 4sd saginaw reverse light wires come through the floor?
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Hello westozmonaro,
Of interest would be the original colour/trim of the donor body shell used (the one with the Sydney Chassis Number in it). The ID plate may say it is Ermine White with black trim now, but what was it when first built?
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Ben, itd also be interesting if it has early windscreen pillars or not too.
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yes that would be interesting , the guy has no idea just got the tags from a mate about 8yrs ago ,and the original shell only has the small tag so
also like to know the answer to that question , but guess will never know he also has a set of 81737 tags warrick yellow / parchment trim he got hold of about 20yrs ago he said
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Ben would definitely be keen to get those numbers.
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just read on old holden web site that the early HK had id tags in middle of the firewall , then later models on the top edge ,
this car has been identified above as one of the first pagewood bodies , but the only tag holes are on the top of the firewall , not the middle of the firewall ,
were there many cars where the body was built but for some reason not assembled till much later on in the series ?? fro what ever reason body damaged in production ect
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Its not all that early. HK started in January 1968 and Monaros werent built in large numbers until July 1968. The BODY tag swapped up onto the cowl in about August. Your chassis is HK269xxSS. I have the following Pagewood numbers:
337-00249 - chassis HK226xxSS.
737-00020 - chassis HK231xxSS.
1837-00002 - chassis HK231xxSS.
These all have firewall BODY tags and the 2 x GTSs are both July builds. The Monaro is a little earlier.
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