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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 17 November 2009 6:57:46 PM(UTC)
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I know that some bits used in these cars were sourced straight from the GM parts bin in the states. Not sure which bots though.

Can anyone name any?

Might be an easier way to get some of the stuff.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 3:34:34 AM(UTC)
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im not sure about the k/t/gs but the HQs shared alot of bits with the camaros
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 3:39:42 AM(UTC)
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There has been discussion here about Corvette indicator switches being the same.

Other than that there are blatantly obvious things like Chevrolet engines, Powerglide/Saginaw transmissions and 10 bolt diffs. None of which you are using are you?


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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 4:54:06 AM(UTC)
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There are a lot of electrical bits & pieces that are shared with U.S. models or even just U.S.-sourced.

Ignition switches, w/wiper switches, cigarette lighter sockets & plungers, inhibitor & reverse light switches, power window switches & motors as well as lock, barrel & key sets (ignition, door, glovebox, boot lid, tailgate etc.).

A lot of steering column hardware is also U.S.-sourced, like blinker switches but may not be interchangeable because of the LHD vs RHD thing.

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 5:45:41 AM(UTC)
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im not sure about the k/t/gs but the HQs shared alot of bits with the camaros



My Camaro has HQ Steering components, but it didnt before it was converted to RHD. Only thing Ive noticed the same is the heater fan.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 6:28:05 AM(UTC)
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i know the ball joints are the same and the little rubber boot on the steering shaft is the same, im not sure what else is, thats just what i know of, it would be good to know what else is the same though
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 7:28:41 AM(UTC)
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Ive got both and believe me they are nothing alike at all.(HQ is nothing like a Tran sam or Camaro which do have the same components as each other)IE: upper and lower control arms are boxed sections(really heavy) but on HQS they are stamped ,springs are are way bigger three people to put them in.(pontiac car club). Dont know about earlier stuff...hk t g.dont think so

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 18 November 2009 8:05:30 AM(UTC)
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Recently noticed that 67/68 Camaro has exterior door handles extremely similair to EJ/EH, interestingly not HD/HR style. Whether they are interchangable I dont know. Also, some 57 Chev bits such as sunvisor pivots & internal door handles also appear similair to EJ/EH.

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#9 Posted : Thursday, 19 November 2009 12:22:22 AM(UTC)
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I bought air cleaner lid, battery terminals and many other engine bay bits and pieces for my HG 350. Much cheaper as the Yanks dont know what a Monaro is and therefore dont add the rare, NOS, NASCO and must have to complete your show car price hike like here in OZ

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 7:11:19 AM(UTC)
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Theres actually very few parts shared by Camaros and Firebirds. Yes, many will fit but not be accurate or correct. Firebirds were another level higher than the Camaro when it came to better designed components and suspension parts. For instance, body-panel wise, trunklids and the filler panel are interchangeable, thats it (70-81 models at least) Late 60s F-bodies would be slightly more similar though!.

Oh, to add to the topic....you can buy the electric window chrome switches which were originally sourced from GM in the US which is why they say LOCK on the underside, being Powerdoor locks not windows over there. Cant say theyd be cheaper though, just interchangeable.
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Ive got both and believe me they are nothing alike at all.(HQ is nothing like a Tran sam or Camaro which do have the same components as each other

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#11 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 8:19:41 AM(UTC)
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They have the same bodies.Im not saying that they are accurate or correct but you can bolt on parts from a 79 ta on a 79 camaro as in doors etc,thats as close as youll get to being similar,not the same with monaro to camaro as the topic is asking thats what im trying to explain ,sorry if its confusing.

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#12 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 8:25:12 AM(UTC)
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Well the doors of a firebird wont line up with the doors on a camaro, completely different body lines, but thats irrelevant to the topic! Some mechanicals are interchangeable but you have to know what youre after.

Thought of another...the chrome cabin light on late 70s Statesmans with reading lamps is also a deluxe option on some Chev, Cadillac and Pontiac, probably others. Although, again, sourcing locally probably cheaper.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 8:44:20 AM(UTC)
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They dont fit holdens...lol

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#14 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 9:04:07 AM(UTC)
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aaah I get ya now!
Also things like chev engines were delivered complete so spares are interchangeable, obviously, but also smaller items like the tower hose clamps which were a feature of 60s-70s US cars, were also found on chev equipped holdens.
Also be aware that 14" GTS rims or ralleye II rims will have different stud patterns between US and Aus, 15" was standard over there in later years on the larger models and 14" for smaller cars. Same with the honeycomb rims, 14" over here but 15" over there with matching stud pattern.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 9:14:41 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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Well the doors of a firebird wont line up with the doors on a camaro, completely different body lines, but thats irrelevant to the topic! Some mechanicals are interchangeable but you have to know what youre after



The Interchange book is a worthy investment if you own either Camaro or Pontiac F-BIRD.

Funny thing about second gen Camaros as opposed to first gens with SBC - Front wheel bearings 70 1/2 - 78 are the same bearing part numbers as HQ Holden. 79 - 81 are not the same.

79 Model Camaro has a different power steering pump to any other second gen model.

Front and rear springs 79 - 81 are larger than 78 and anything before.

Tailshaft 79 - 81 with TH 350 Trans is larger in diameter than 78 and before
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#16 Posted : Saturday, 21 November 2009 9:32:49 AM(UTC)
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what else ...ozchevy ? very interesting ,same as HQ body verses hj x z wb fronts they fit but need some stuff modified for proper fittment.


.with tinkering some

Jim in Adelaide

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#17 Posted : Sunday, 22 November 2009 1:11:34 PM(UTC)
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There are plenty of US made parts that will fit Australian cars if you know where to look and which year/model. HG and HQ houndstooth cloth in all colours and a lot of vinyl is readily available from a supplier/manufacturer in the US and is far cheaper to procure than here in Australia.

First Gen Firebirds used 14" Ralley II rims which bolt straight up to HQ and the GTS style wheel nuts are occaisonally available Nos for around $50 per set of 20 and repros are readily available at $45 per set of 20. Camaro 327 and 350 fender emblems and the flag are HK/HT. Chevelle and Corvette turn signal switches fit HK/T/G by swapping around one wire but there are two styles with the same part number so you need to know which one is correct.

Chevelle indicator switch will fit HQ/HJ by changing a few wires around but you need to know which year Chevelle for the correct one. Pontiac 4 gang power window switches are correct for HQ. Chevelle ball joints are correct for HQ/HJ/HX if you know which model.

Pontiac, Chevelle and Corvette have the same ignition switches, light switches, cigarette lighters, door locks etc as HK/T/G if you know which models to get them from.

HK/T/G indicator switch for $67. Can be found for less if you search around.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebay...eb2b0QQitemZ260424250032

HQ/J indicator switch...not sure if I have the correct year/model as some look similar but wont fit. Do your own research on this. You get the idea......
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebay...e0f39QQitemZ390111039289

The trick to finding US compatible parts for our Aussie cars is to search GM models two to three years earlier than the year your series was released.
ie: For HK/T/G search 64-65 model Chevelle, Corvette, Pontiac and Chevy. For 71 HQ on search 67-69 GM models.
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