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#1 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 8:32:49 AM(UTC)
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Can someone please point me in the right direction.

I am after a guide as to which letter of the alphabet is generally applicable to numberplates for early Holdens, Fords, etc in NSW.

For instance, the letter Dxx-123 is generally for 1963-64 EHs and the letter H for HQ's, Hxx-123.

I need to know for my 1971 HG.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 5:59:58 PM(UTC)
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Hey Tranx

I asked the same question of my Uncle for my 1970 HG.

He told me they had an HK Kingswood that was AHA-XXX and an HT Kingswood that was BCK-XXX.

So Id guess late Bs, maybe early Cs at a stretch.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 6:56:24 PM(UTC)
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My parents had brand new HQs, and they were GIG and GPG. I had a HZ in the 80s and it was JOJ. If a HK has AHA they would have probably been tranferred from a trade-in. My guess is HG would be closer to F or G.

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#4 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 7:10:45 PM(UTC)
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There were two number series used in NSW at this time.

The AAA-001 began in the mid 50s & finished at the end of EZZ-000 in 1968. They stopped at the end of E & other states used the rest of the alphabet in segments. For some reason F prefixed plates were used only on trucks.

Anyway, in 1968 when they finished at the end of E, they went back & started with A again, using all the numbers that were now unused.

So late HK had AAA etc., HQ had H & G & so on. On the second run they continued thru to the end of the alphabet (Z) & in recent years started using the new series AA-xx-AA, number plates.

Ive got list of these prefixes somewhere, Ill have a look & see what a 1971 HG should be.

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#5 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 7:50:03 PM(UTC)
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The good Dr sounds pretty right to me.

We had an EJ with CUZ***. My EH was DCU***, HD was DUZ***, HK was EVS*** and a mates HK is AHV***.

Seem to remember HGs being in the Bs and HQs being in the Cs.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 8:24:51 PM(UTC)
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My parents has a new EJ and it was DAF-***
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#7 Posted : Saturday, 12 December 2009 10:34:21 PM(UTC)
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Mum and Dad had purchased new in 69 a VF Valiant, numberplate EMG and I had a HT that was EVE hope that adds to the confusion.Asked Dad once why buy a Valiant? Look at the news, what sort of cars do bank robbers use to get away. VALIANTS! He was spot on, that old val was good in a straight line.
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#8 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 3:01:20 AM(UTC)
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Heres one to confuse you Sean.
My parents had an FC which had BWZ-***
And my HG had BQZ-***


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#9 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 7:13:17 AM(UTC)
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No confusion here, we had an FJ which was AMT*** and later on an FE which was BEJ*** and Id say BQZ*** would be right for an HG.

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#10 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 5:21:14 PM(UTC)
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Depends on if it copped a re-issued plate or not.
I know of a number of 1970 cars that had early Bs, and based on what those cars had, would suggest the first half of the alphabet up to November. It also depends on how quickly the registry office issued out all their plates - some of the smaller country ones could have taken a while to go through all their "old" ones, while a city branch would fly through them.

You even see this today with the new AA-11-AA plates - 2 cars on our work fleet were first regoed on the same day, one as AN-##-xx, the other has AR-##-xx. The older AN plate was from a central coast dealer, the newer one from a Parramatta dealer - suggesting the Parramatta RTA had already got into their new stock of plates.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 6:00:04 PM(UTC)
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Yes Mick, areas were sent batches of plates, so country areas may have taken longer to issue their plates, so you can also determine the area of first rego by the numberplates if you want to get that picky.

As Terry said each state had its own series of letters so that each state would not double up on the same letter/numbre combo. To the point that NSW personalised plates are two letter 3 number and Queensland is 3 letter two number.

One thing that also happened in 1968 when NSW chnaged back tot eh begining of the alphabet, they also used the letter Q for the first time, up until then Q was not used. (may have happened after reset, but by 73)

My HK was regoed 19/8/68 and was EZK532 if that helps.

Had another HK with AXA***, think this was a January rego.

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#12 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 6:51:19 PM(UTC)
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Hi Warren, my HK lived in Qld up until 2007. I have lodged a search application with Qld DOT privacy unit to try and chase down its original number plate. The car is a March 68 build, if or when they get back to me with something resembling a period plate would you be able to pick the area in which the car was first registered?
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#13 Posted : Sunday, 13 December 2009 9:09:35 PM(UTC)
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I think there is a problem here with the understanding that NSW was limited to AAA to EZZ for cars at the time. So an FE could have a B plate and so could an HG, which made the plate cycle about 13 years.

Prior to that we had AA*** to ZZ*** which was not reused and was changed to AAA*** in the early 50s.

Personal plates started as reissues of disused AA*** to ZZ*** numbers in the late 60s, which was popular because you could get your initials and it cost $25 as a once only fee, a carton of beer was about $4.00 at the time.

In the times we are looking at a plate chg was still a rare event (avoiding the repo man mainly), so every plate Ive quoted here and from what others have posted Im prepared to say that we are all talking about original issue plates.

And as Dr T said, they went to EZZ*** sometime in late 1968 and then restarted at AAA***. NSW trucks were F and the other states were G to X, ACT was Y and the Commonwealth Gov used Z, hope that helps. Bob.

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#14 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 2:37:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi All,
My father liked fords, and only bought them from what is now called Thomson Ford in Parramatta.His first was a 1961 falcon,CFF-081, 1964 falcon
DLA-575, 1966 falcon EFA-224, 1969 fairmont BGA-802, 1972 fairmont GFC-628,
1975 holden ute HJJ-526, 1977 fairmont JEJ-422.


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#15 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 2:52:39 AM(UTC)
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I like this thread drift were into... lol, glad Im not the only one who remembers the number plates of all the family owned cars from way back when.

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#16 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 3:03:51 AM(UTC)
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#17 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 3:16:48 AM(UTC)
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only cause someone else brought up vic

my parents had a HQ when i was young, and its number plates were LUX***

the orginal number plates on my HQ were LYG***

the previous owner kept them so i had to get new ones, cause i couldnt get them re-issued
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#18 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 6:29:08 AM(UTC)
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My old man had a HJ Statesman HWF-***
and WB Statesman MCI-***


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#19 Posted : Monday, 14 December 2009 5:54:12 PM(UTC)
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I am afraid i do not know any of the number plate issue areas, just know they did it. Police of the eare might know.

A friend was told recently by a Police officer his car was a Townsville car because he was posted to Townsville at the time his car was regoed and therefore knew all those letters.

I can add the following HAS 180 on TA torana, KDB on Late XC (XDs already out), KIZ on XD

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Cheers Warren, thanks for the reply.
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