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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 6:13:15 PM(UTC)
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finally i have stumbled across a hk monaro, i was told it was originally a 186 with glide and a bench seat? did monaros ever have bench seatys and if so how did you get into the back?
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 8:25:10 PM(UTC)
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No HK Monaro ever had a bench seat.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 8:27:04 PM(UTC)
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bench seat only available in convertable model. :-)
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 8:28:34 PM(UTC)
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thanks byron
so if they were on the column it either had a blank centre console or a short console?
p.s can i have my 327 back?

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 8:52:18 PM(UTC)
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Plenty of HK Monaros were column shift, 3spd, 3spd Synchro or glide. Most seem to be 186 in my experience but 161 examples were built. There will be a seat separator for column shift. Basically a little console with lid like in HQ-HZ Kingswood with column shift and buckets, but different looking.
If its a HK Monaro a GTS 327 engine is no good to you. Just find any old SBC, even an old 283 is a nice engine. Even an original HK-HT 307 would do nicely. Better still if it was originally a column shift make it a 307 column auto and use a VN-VS diff and Commodore front brakes.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 9:16:37 PM(UTC)
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thats what i was thinking a 307 and glide or a 350 and glide, what sort of changes need to be made for a commodore diff and brakes to fit?
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 10:17:05 PM(UTC)
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Talk to Hoppers about brakes. Im intending to try a VN diff with a lokka centre in my HK, and see how it goes. It just needs HK mounts and handbrake cables to suit from what I understand.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:40:48 PM(UTC)
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I run HQ rotors with HJ Girlock alloy calipers on the front & VN discs on the rear of an EH sedan. The master system that I have is a 1" bore master (XF I think) with an 8" booster. My master/vac system is modified to suit my application, whereas you will have the luxury of using the factory unit.
The brakes are extremely efficient for my application & recently,(6 weeks ago), easily satisfied the braking requirements for a VASS engineering report prior to registration in Victoria, the tester was very surprised at the braking capacity of the car.
The handbrake on the rear discs is not a difficult thing to sort out. Anyone that is able to make automotive cables should be able to nut out the correct fittings & dimensions for you. For a newly made cable, expect to pay around $150 - $200. Regarding the cable, I may have a contact. He keeps correct cable to suit EJ/EH in stock with commodore disc rear assemblies & I would assume be able to supply for HK/T/G.
It is a simple & cost effective brake upgrade for the earlier Holdens with parts still easily found.
Depending on preference, blank HQ rotors can be set up with whatever bolt pattern you choose. Mine uses early Holden pattern.
Couple of images of the system.








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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:58:54 PM(UTC)
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do you end up using the hq stub axles? is there any requirement to shorten the vn diff?
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#10 Posted : Thursday, 31 December 2009 12:47:30 AM(UTC)
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I did use HQ stubs for the front. The rear is an EH banjo diff housing, as in image, with the VN disc assy adapted & using early stud pattern. If using a Commodore diff in an EH, it is a little wider than standard EH, narrowing is usually done. The correct diff width for your application would be easily determined with a measurement of a Commodore at a wrecker. Or call a reputable diff specialist.

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#11 Posted : Thursday, 31 December 2009 3:20:37 AM(UTC)
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From what I hear the VN-VS diff is the right width for HK-HG if the Commodore 48P offset rims are used. I intend to use 18x8 V2 SII CV8 rims with 235/40/18 tyres (I just bought 2 x sets new today - they are export CV8 (Pontiac GTO) so they are gloss but who cares). Ill use HK-WB front stubs with 330mm Hoppers front brakes and 300mm rears with HSV/Harrop calipers. Standard VE Commodore brakes will more than do on a street HK though. Ill use a HK booster with a UC front on it so I can run a Commodore master cylinder.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, 31 December 2009 8:55:04 AM(UTC)
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For those brakes Byron, youll need a master cylinder with a fast fill valve.
Weve been fitting them to commodores for a while, and everyone complains of the long soggy pedal.
The cure is a VS onwards fast fill master cylinder (I find VT the best, coupled with the VT booster) and they run the multi-piston calipers really well, with a good reliable pedal.

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#13 Posted : Thursday, 31 December 2009 7:52:02 PM(UTC)
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Good advice, will note it in the list of bits. I would have used whatever was on my mates VX GTS anyway as it has great brakes, I assume this must be the same cylinder as the VT? One of these should still bolt onto an A9X/UC booster (this is what the HK booster will be like on the front once it gets the UC front piece)?

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