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I know about cars being restored to "Concourse" condition,which I believe is how the car left the showroom.What I don't understand is of car's that have been "over restored". What is involved with that?
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to understand the meaning of over restored, just go look at any GTHO(they seem to be the main ones) or similar era muscle car that has a full on resto, and have a look at the trim, paint, markings, taping and fixing of the wiring, the list goes on and on, they where never that good from factory. gaps where poor panel fit was shocking, so when we restore them, we make it perfect, and in the eyes of some people, thats whats called over restoring.
oh, and dont be to be a smarty, but ita actually "Concours", i get caught always!!
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Over restored is when they are better than they left the factory.
Things like narrowing up the panel gaps like a modern car, too much gloss on the paint, perfect fitment of all mouldings & stuff.
Basically restoring it to a much higher standard than the original cars ever were.
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Austin Healeys and E-Type Jaguars can be a good example of over restoring. Often the competitiveness of a Concours dElegance forces restoration of a vehicle to surpass mint condition. Mint condition would be the state of the vehicle when it originally left the factory. Concours-quality cars often are given upholstery, paint, chrome (or nickel) plating, and mechanical restoration far exceeding that of the car when new. A concourse is a place where walkways meet, a shopping centre or rail station. If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/ |
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Over restoration basically involves doubling the cost of the resto to achieve a barely noticeable difference! As the other guys have mentioned, panel gaps seem to be a favorite, opening up a factory workshop manual which lists allowable tolerances is an interesting read.
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a Concours is professionally judged. Points system, and penalties apply for less than perfect characteristics of the restoration. Personally I see stone chips on a car as real trophies. If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/ |
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Originally posted by we wreck 81837s only
to understand the meaning of over restored, just go look at any GTHO(they seem to be the main ones) or similar era muscle car that has a full on resto, and have a look at the trim, paint, markings, taping and fixing of the wiring, the list goes on and on, they where never that good from factory. gaps where poor panel fit was shocking, so when we restore them, we make it perfect, and in the eyes of some people, thats whats called over restoring.
oh, and dont be to be a smarty, but ita actually "Concours", i get caught always!!
"Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."
Brilliantly put. I do hope you are going to be in Warwick this year as I would love you to look over my car for an opinion on how factory I have done the car. I am aiming for a brand new car as it left the Pagewood plant back in the day, no better no worse.
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Im currently restoring my HK327 S1 with matching numbers. I too have asked how far do you go. I dont want it to be concours so im building it to be respectable and close to factory . Im also building it to last another 40 years, such as sealing all known rust areas. Luckily for me the car was always garaged and has no rust. But at the end of the day Im building it for myself and not to please the most pickiest critic.
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Thankyou for picking up the spelling error..it is "Concours"..Ive got it now.I believe cars are to be driven and therefore enjoyed.As Peter said stone chips are trophies,and to me they add character as well.
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I will never understand someones desire to have a car that is so finely detailed, so perfect and so pristine that it is never driven. Basically, i dont understand show cars. I like static arts, but not when the display piece is by its very existance a functional piece.
I read a tale of a Jaguar fanatic who would win every show he entered. It was in Street Machine if i remember. He would arrive first, leave last and everyone thought it was utter devotion. Turns out he was so desperate to win that he presented his cars without fluid in them to maintain a spotless presentation!
Not only is it despicable, its just not fair on the cars themselves. A car exists to drive.
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