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RdS Offline
#1 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 6:44:57 AM(UTC)
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what does everyone think?

im after some new tires for my 14x6 GTS wheels (which i run with trim rings).. in 205/70 just for a nice original look.
found you can get reproduction 205/70 R14 BF Goodrich 3/8" redline radials... which are awesomly period. Ive seen HQ's have redwalls on the rallye 2's, and they look great. but by 74 when the HJ came out, were they too out of fashion?
im tempted to get a set (mainly put off by $330 a tire!), but if its too wrong on a HJ, i dont want to bother.
also,
who made the redwalls on the K/T/G/Q monaro's?
were they still an option for the HJ's?

heres the reproduction bfgoodrich..


and redwalls that work well on a yellow HQ..




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#2 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 8:36:27 AM(UTC)
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Looks OK to me?.Go with it an be an original thinker,love seeing stuff like that.

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#3 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 8:40:32 AM(UTC)
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im with jim on this one.



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#4 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 8:57:10 AM(UTC)
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cheers..well gang up on him!..lol

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#5 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 9:36:26 AM(UTC)
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white wall and black wall only available on HJ... about 12 different tyre combos released

source.. monary story
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#6 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 3:48:38 PM(UTC)
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antique tyres do them in BF goodrich
love the redwalls!

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#7 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 4:36:14 PM(UTC)
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thanks for the input everyone.

Antique Tyres is where i got the quote for $330ea, which while not alll that much, its double what id usually spend on 14" tyres. for a nice set of 5 (spare wheel too) thats $1650! :(
id buy some cheaper tyres and just get them redwalled, but ive heard red/white walls painted on in VIC are defectable now? they also look pox after the redwall has started to wear off...! atleast (hopefully!) the bfgoodrich repro tyres are a proper redwall with the line in the tyre!


one more pic.. HJ this time (with HQ sill blackouts??!)

i like it. now to scrounge up 1500 bucks.. ;)


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#8 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 5:03:10 PM(UTC)
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Yes, those applied (painted on) coloured bands are illegal for 2 reasons:

1. They "buff" the letters off to make room for the band, normally removing the load rating info.

2. They often grind a groove into the sidewall, creating a safety hazard (one guy on streetcommodores forum posted up a pic of his blowout that eminated from the groove theyd cut just days earlier to apply the coloured band, and theres a few more like him).

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#9 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 10:04:08 PM(UTC)
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I must say, I am fan of the red walls. Reminds me of the Hotwheels toy cars.
At the end of the day, do as you choose. Make the car suit you, not anyone else. Whatever look you like.
Of the tyre suppliers, Antique are probably one of the dearer to buy from. Good range though.
There is a guy in Sydney that supplied a set of 13" whitewalls for me about 18 months ago. He deals on ebay. I will try & track his details down & post for you.

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#10 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 10:59:46 PM(UTC)
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Hey RDS

The sill blackouts look right for a HJ to me (though others will know for sure).

Perhaps a little low in centre of the car (most ive seen go a couple of inches above the door line). But that might just be because of the shadow.

I take it your car is very nearly done.......

Mark

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#11 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 12:39:58 AM(UTC)
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Found the link to his eBay site. Make contact, he may be able to help you.
http://myworld.ebay.com.au/oldschool-tyres-4-u/


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#12 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 1:49:14 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by commodorenut
Yes, those applied (painted on) coloured bands are illegal for 2 reasons:

1. They "buff" the letters off to make room for the band, normally removing the load rating info.

2. They often grind a groove into the sidewall, creating a safety hazard (one guy on streetcommodores forum posted up a pic of his blowout that eminated from the groove theyd cut just days earlier to apply the coloured band, and theres a few more like him).

Cheers,

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Sorry to go off topic slightly here but this is very interesting. Im wondering what impact this could have on an event like Monaro Nats? I bought new Firestone red stripe D70s for my car as they were the original fit tyres. What about all the cars that will have the painted red stripe tyres on them? If they are deemed illegal then the authorities will have a field day you would think. Will someone turn a blind eye to this?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 1:59:03 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by D. A. Barnes
quote:
Originally posted by commodorenut
Yes, those applied (painted on) coloured bands are illegal for 2 reasons:

1. They "buff" the letters off to make room for the band, normally removing the load rating info.

2. They often grind a groove into the sidewall, creating a safety hazard (one guy on streetcommodores forum posted up a pic of his blowout that eminated from the groove theyd cut just days earlier to apply the coloured band, and theres a few more like him).

Cheers,

Mick
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Sorry to go off topic slightly here but this is very interesting. Im wondering what impact this could have on an event like Monaro Nats? I bought new Firestone red stripe D70s for my car as they were the original fit tyres. What about all the cars that will have the painted red stripe tyres on them? If they are deemed illegal then the authorities will have a field day you would think. Will someone turn a blind eye to this?
Oh no, what a tragedy!

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#14 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 4:37:28 AM(UTC)
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Hey RdS

Another way to confirm the look of the redwalls on your car is photochop a set of redwalls from another car onto a photo of your car. Technologhy is great if you know how to use it.

Or the old fashion way is to find someone with a set of redwalls and ask polietly to either dummy fit them (place beside your car) or do an actual fit.

Theres no harm in asking and if you do not have the technology for a photochop there may be someone on this forum who may be able to help you out with that as well.

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#15 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 7:29:59 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by D. A. Barnes
Sorry to go off topic slightly here but this is very interesting. Im wondering what impact this could have on an event like Monaro Nats? I bought new Firestone red stripe D70s for my car as they were the original fit tyres. What about all the cars that will have the painted red stripe tyres on them? If they are deemed illegal then the authorities will have a field day you would think. Will someone turn a blind eye to this?

If the tyres were manufactured with a red band on them, or any other coloured band, then its no problem.

What the authorities have a problem with, is people buffing the load rating markings off the tyres, to make room to paint a coloured band on the tyre sidewall.

Some of these are rather shonky businesses run out of the back of a rusty van, that effectively have an angle grinder in a jig, that they hold up against the tyre & rotate the tyre around. Its not only illegal, its also stupid, and dangerous for all road users.

And people let these clowns armed with angle grinders near the only thing keeping their car on the bitumen.....

But I digress....

If the tyres, like yours, are manufactured with the band already in place, and all the load ratings are clearly visible (and yes, the ADR standard dictates the size & height of the lettering), then its no problem.

Authorities are not experts, but they can look for a load rating (and have been instructed to) and if its not there, youre gone. A lot of the guys in hiluxes & rodeos running car rims & low-profile rubber get caught out all the time, as the passenger tyres cant achieve the required load rating that commercial tyres can, and the tyre load rating is dictated by the tyre placard. The authorities simply look at the placard, and compare the rating to that on the tyre. Even an uneducated dummy can work out if the tyre is less than the placard (or if the tyre is not showing a load rating) and then its time for a defect.

One particular Pirelli tyre only has markings on one sidewall. A mate has them on his VL. When mounted "backwards" on the rim, the lettering is no longer visible. He was served a defect for the tyres not being roadworthy, as there was no load rating visible on 2 of them (yet the other side were the same tyres, with visible markings).
He took it to court & lost, as the ADR also covers the fitment of tyres, and under that ADR, it states that tyres with markings on only one sidewall, must be mounted with that sidewall facing out.

It may be picky, but its the law, and they will use it.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, 27 February 2010 8:59:59 PM(UTC)
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thats for all the feedback everyone.. and that link Utility8.
i think i would go ahead and buy the redwalls, with the only problem being the 1600bucks needed to get them!
definitely wouldnt bother with the painted on ones. as with most detectable things, its all good until it MAYBE goes wrong, and if you stack it, voided insurance = bad times. so the bf goodrich ones would be the go!







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