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Coloured wheels are standard on SL/E Statesman and SL/E Torana only. Blue wheels were available on SL/E Torana from memory.
I know I'm being pedantic, but there was no SL/E version of the UC Torana. There was a UC SL/E Sunbird though. The highest Torana spec in UC was the SL DeLuxe. Dr Terry _________________________________________ When calculating a car restoration budget, be as accurate as you can & then double the final figure. It will be closer to the truth. |
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The trim colour charts seem to be fairly reliable but I agree about the rest being pretty generalised. I am still trying to find out the cut out date for early and late HJ in regards to hoodlining colour... we won't mention the sports dash colour for HJ Sandman!!!!
I wonder if it was possible to option a HZ Sandman or Monaro (GTS) with a Buckskin sports wheel? I wouldn't have thought so as they were package vehicles.
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I know I'm being pedantic, but there was no SL/E version of the UC Torana. There was a UC SL/E Sunbird though. The highest Torana spec in UC was the SL DeLuxe.
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LOL... I'll pay that one.... essentially the same car though.
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Looking at those NZ Trade me photo's reminded me that we have a bloke around here who has a yellow Sandman van (HQ from memory), and this bloke is a Painter & Decorator as well. Venture to say that he's had it for a while too, it has that comfortable well used look about it. Terrific to see characters sticking to the old workhorses. "Gunna get buried in it mate", lol.
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The trim colour charts seem to be fairly reliable but I agree about the rest being pretty generalised. I am still trying to find out the cut out date for early and late HJ in regards to hoodlining colour... we won't mention the sports dash colour for HJ Sandman!!!!
I wonder if it was possible to option a HZ Sandman or Monaro (GTS) with a Buckskin sports wheel? I wouldn't have thought so as they were package vehicles.
Trim colour charts are reliable, but they don't have all available trim colours on them! Makes it damn hard. HJ has 2 x major revisions to what you could order trim wise - approx 8/75 and 3/76. The only revision to headlining I know of is the change from Dove Grey to Chamois on HOLDEN with 19V trim and the change of the optional neutral headlining on Kingswood with 18V trim from Dove Grey to Chamois (normal headlining was black with 18V). I'm pretty sure this happened around 8/75. I'm still not convinced yet that HJ facias were anything but silver (or Portland Grey or whatever it's called). I cannot find any docuemntation yet that states otherwise. I have a few revisions of the HJ ordering procedures and features manuals to find, so hopefully that answer will come then. You would have been able to option the buckskin wheel at extra cost - but the dealer would have done the change. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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I have a couple of GTS pics with coloured wheels 1 Blue and 1 Buckskin, no idea if they are original or added later, Byron if you would like I'll send them through.
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Thanks Leroy, but I think i'm right Sandman wise now. The blue must have been added as it wasn't available on HZ. Buckskin is a mystery!
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the buckskin wheel was basically for the HZ SLE I thought....?
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the buckskin wheel was basically for the HZ SLE I thought....?
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thats the one.
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The Buckskin wheel must have been on other stuff too or the parts catalogue would just state SL/E next to it. It must have been optionable on HOLDEN, Kingswood, Premier and Deville with 63C/T/V/X or 62V trim. Strange they didn't use it on GTS or Sandman.
I just looked at the UC catalogue which lists 7 different sports wheels:
Black, Dark Grey, Dark Blue, Dark Green, Tan, Dark Buckskin and Dark Carmine.
Strange that these would have been available when UC was around (I've seen UC's as early as 11/77) but most not used on HZ or WB.
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[quote]Originally posted by HK1837
Adam, can't be a 2/78 with 23C as C type codes didn't appear until about 10/78. So it must be later than 9/78. The only other blue available was 23V but i'm almost certain it was Kingswood only in commercials.
i sent you the tag info for this a few years back.
Palais white HZ sandman van L32 M20, blue trim, 2000 kg adelaide build.
i am going off memory, but it was a factory blue interior.
maybe i have build date wrong?
There is no doubt blue trimmed Sandmans got black wheels, as there were no blue GTS wheels on HZ Sandman or GTS, that was WB only I think. There are only 3 x GTS wheels listed and those are black, 63 and 77, and 77 wasn't available on Sandman (only Kingswood).
23C blue WB kingswood steering wheel was a kingswood wheel in blue, not "GTS"
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11/78. Rest is correct.
You could order a Dark Blue or Dark Buckskin "sports" wheel on all WB exc Statesman. Same part numbers as UC.
While I'm at it, why would a manual NZ destined WB cab chassis have a different fascia to the rest of WB? I just noticed that when checking WB wheels.
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The Buckskin wheel must have been on other stuff too or the parts catalogue would just state SL/E next to it. It must have been optionable on HOLDEN, Kingswood, Premier and Deville with 63C/T/V/X or 62V trim. Strange they didn't use it on GTS or Sandman.
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They would have had all that as it was optional on HOLDEN, Kingswood, Premier and Deville.
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ok this is a pic of a Flamenco van, XX7, 1979 build, adel L32 M20 (from memory byron i gave to you some time ago so check trim code).  Edited by user Friday, 2 July 2010 1:14:57 PM(UTC)
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[i ]HJ has 2 x major revisions to what you could order trim wise - approx 8/75 and 3/76. The only revision to headlining I know of is the change from Dove Grey to Chamois on HOLDEN with 19V trim and the change of the optional neutral headlining on Kingswood with 18V trim from Dove Grey to Chamois (normal headlining was black with 18V). I'm pretty sure this happened around 8/75.[/i]
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Adam, I don't have any 1979 XX7 utes recorded at all,only an XU3 and it is 1957 and Acacia Ridge built. Do you still have the ID? The wheel certainly doesn't look odd.
HJ didn't get 18V trim on HOLDEN.
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the ID of that van that the pic is from i listed in your 110 page thread about half way through,
Flamenco, 2000 kg, Adel build, 1979 tagged L32, M20
You should have a 1979 XX7 tagged ute, my own personal ute, in Malachite (1954 i think from memory)
3/79 build date.
also so any HJ with 18V trim on WM body is a sandman???, i know this seems true for HX, but wasn't sure for HJ?
what would be in your opinion the hoodling on an 18V WM HJ post 8/75?
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I've got your ute (missing chassis number), but I can't find that van. I'll go back through the thread.
No HJ HOLDEN got 18V trim, only Kingswood. All HJ HOLDEN (commercial) or Belmont (sedan, wagon) with black trim got 19V. 19V was Dove Grey and later Chamois headlining.
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