ohh goodie a political debate on a car forum

these are always good for a larf

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Originally posted by 80569K
Geezus Bundy are you serious? The mining tax is on profits over $50 million and considering we own the ore I would want to kick any Government who is too matey with the miners. Talk about the Labor party wanting to transfer wealth, phhhhttttt.

The billionaire who just about runs the mining industry in this country is also a life member of the Liberal party, you should be able to get the drift from there.

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interesting this debate on mining tax?
my thoughts are>> [and please correct me if i have not understood the issue[
the mnerals are ours,
the miners invest squillons, and get back a return on their risk and investment, which is a bg risk,
they pay royalties to the states,
and then company tax on their profits, the same as we all pay tax on income,
what was proposed was an extra tax on them after they made profits more than 6%, equalling approx 30%.
therefore they would end up effectvely paying about 50>60% of tax?
in return the gov, [taxpayer[ was gong to guarantee them should their project fail,
off course this was irrelevant, cause most mines would not start, unless they were dang sure the mine was viable.
so they decided not to invest in aus, cause not worth the return nor risk,
so they will move to ghana, zimbarbwe,argentina, etc, and other safer places to invest.
we as a country lose big time.
i know i would not like the gov to suddenly say we want 30% of any money you have left over after you have paid your bills, and want to save and put n the bank, includng from the previous years as well?
maybe my take on this is wwroo,,,,rroooonngg,,,,wron,,,,,
still cant say it.
cheers
bcb
p.s/ it was jg/swan who did a secret deal with the 3 big miners? to shut them up,
whos supporting big business here??


it was but yesterday, i thought myself a fragment, quivering without rythum in the sphere of life.
now i know i am the sphere, and all of life quivers in rythmic fragments, within me!
kg.

How good would it be for the Independants to pick a leader and go to the 2 x parties and say:

Here's the deal. [for example] Tony Windsor will be PM, who wants to be deputy, Julia or Tony?

Do you think either would take it?

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?

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Originally posted by HK1837
How good would it be for the Independants to pick a leader and go to the 2 x parties and say:

Here's the deal. [for example] Tony Windsor will be PM, who wants to be deputy, Julia or Tony?

Do you think either would take it?

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?

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I was thinking that myself. I suppose Labor would take them up on it with their "Stay in power at all costs" philosophy.

That would probably be the best outcome.

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Vandals and graffiti "artists" do everyone a favour and target parking meters and fixed speed cameras only.

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Originally posted by 80569K
You gotta laugh at the media and the way they put governments in and out. Today they are saying that Abbott is a Howard clone and doesn't understand economics, first thing he will do is chop into Labor's social programs, ie school & hospital funding yadayadayada...

The media have once again manipulated public opinion to almost get the desired result and are now saying gee Australia you've stuffed up as if they had nothing to do with it.

The rest of the western world is apparently shaking their heads, how does the only government who dodged the worldwide recession bullet and continue to have a booming economy whilst keeping interest rates and unemployment down get the flick because of waste, mismanagement and overspending.

We deserve a hung parliament and I hope that in the future people might actually look at their own situation before believing anything they read or hear in the media.

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The media is a funny thing isn't it? The world may be shaking their heads, but Labor inherited a huge surplus which is 95% of the reason why Australia avoided a recession. I think the majority of voters agree in general that using that surplus to stimulate the economy was a wise and sensible action, but I believe people aren't silly and saw how badly bungled the spending packages really were - Education revolution, Insulation for homes etc. All good things in principle but VERY badly managed by an en experienced bunch. Couple that with how the Labor party truly looked in its dumping off Rudd and people weren't happy, that has been reflected in the election non-result.

I honestly don't think there is any way out when you only have 2 x parties, you don't like one and you are pissed with the other. So you vote elsewhere and the vote ends up in most cases with one of the 2 x parties eg Green vote = Labor vote. Personally I'm stuck in an electorate where just about everyone are sheep and all vote Labor so we get NOTHING.

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?