It has come to my attention that some think I am talking about car I judged.

I was not invovled in the judging of Concours at Warwick, with the exception of the function test an one car.

This is why I cannot confirm or denny (I would not anyway) any information about why Nick's car won, other than it did win.

I have full faith in the judges decisions. I also know both cars and know that they both have faults. SOme of the suggested faults I do not agree with, but it is alearning curve for all, including myself.

I hope that clarifies the info.

Warren

As I own a CV8Z it was only a small amount, it filled the boot and that is why you thought it was a large amount.

Warren

Gee cant wait to organize the Judging for the WA Nats

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Originally posted by HerCV8
Gee cant wait to organize the Judging for the WA Nats

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i am, by far, no expert on the criteria of judging at any of th descisions made at any monaro natts to date!! but am more than happy to assist in any way i can at your 2012 event.(yor rules of course)
with a non prejudice opinion, related to any previous nationals awards, i would like to offer my assistance in any way possible.
everyone im sure, can pick th s#*t out of any winning vehicle, easier than they can accept th judges final descision, as i did at warwick, as to later model carpet etc etc.
my crusty trusty ole pightute will do th treck regardless, to trade as always
regards DD
www.bellarineclassicautos.com.au

Yes I agree Byron, the judging sheets need an overhaul, I started this after the event, as many others could see that we need to refine them. Even have more of them.

However this was dismissed by some so I stoped. Do you wish to take the lead on this one?

Warren

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Hi.

Just re read some of the comments in the topic.

I note Warren's comment suggesting that copies of Judging sheets be handed to entrants. I strongly agree with the this. As far as I know to date this has never been policy. I feel that if this becomes standard practice it would go a long way to helping many entrants who just shoot in the dark.

I can see that this can potentially become a tin of worms. The human element in judging means that mistakes will be made and that armed with a sheet the entrant could probably challenge judging more often and or effectively.

I feel that whilst my HK Monaro is reasonably accurate, I struggle interpereting the differing views from different (and respected) knowledgable individuals and then applying this when preparing my car. I also feel a responsibility to try to get my car accurate.

As we go forward in time there are less people around who can actually remember or state what is correct first hand. So I see getting correct and consistent judging as becoming a matter of urgency especially for Concours and factory Authentic. The "batton" of knowledge is being handed to a second (and third)generation of enthusiasts.

Nick

The same thing appears to be hapenning in the Ford camp.

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[quote]Originally posted by Silverfox
Hi.

Just re read some of the comments in the topic.

I note Warren's comment suggesting that copies of Judging sheets be handed to entrants. I strongly agree with the this. As far as I know to date this has never been policy. I feel that if this becomes standard practice it would go a long way to helping many entrants who just shoot in the dark.

I can see that this can potentially become a tin of worms. The human element in judging means that mistakes will be made and that armed with a sheet the entrant could probably challenge judging more often and or effectively.

I feel that whilst my HK Monaro is reasonably accurate, I struggle interpereting the differing views from different (and respected) knowledgable individuals and then applying this when preparing my car. I also feel a responsibility to try to get my car accurate.

As we go forward in time there are less people around who can actually remember or state what is correct first hand. So I see getting correct and consistent judging as becoming a matter of urgency especially for Concours and factory Authentic. The "batton" of knowledge is being handed to a second (and third)generation of enthusiasts.

Nick

The same thing appears to be hapenning in the Ford camp.

Hi Nick,

I believe you know what is right or wrong with your car.
Its simple mate, you either drive it and enjoy it for how you brought it, or take it to the next level.Which means making changes from the previous owners as to what was discussed at the Warwick Nationals.
You have a great car, If it was my car! I would just drive it! Other wise sell it and buy a concourse car.

Regards Joe.

Send me photos of your car Nick to [email protected]. If you want anything pointed out that is'nt supposed to be that way I can let you know. I'm confident on most of the car but the Chev engine and its hardware arent my area of expertise. Dave Smith would be able to identify any non factory abnormalities too. I'll give it a shot for you free of charge.

Hi.

To Simon, Byron, Ben ,Bullitt LJ, Warren, Joe, Dave. Thankyou all for your interest, offers and help.

Simon, Both of my computers are off being fixed so will get some pix to you asap Thanks.

Dave Smith spent several hours climbing over and under my car and also getting heaps of pics.....No hiding from Dave now he has so many pics! He promised to follow up with advice which I look forward to!

Joe. Since our conversation I have been chipping away at bringing my car up to speed accuracy wise and have made some good progress. My aim is either "Contemporary" where is presently sits best and/ or "Factory Authentic".
I took many photos and notes of the HKs at Warwick Nats and along with ongoing tips from Ben I feel that it will eventually become a good "Authentic " category car.

Bullitt LJ. I take your comments on board and thank you for them. I have a strong friendship with Steve Clark (previous owner) and Jeff Brown's wife. I recently took the car to Sydney and during the visit I took the car to her and their daughter. She still has many photos,trophies and other items from Jeff's time with the car. Jeff was a founding member of the NSW Monaro Club. Jeff had MANY friends in the Monaro Club and I don't mind being regularly reminded of that when one of them speaks with me. I understand from Ben and others that this car was car of the day at the First Monaro Nationals. It is significant that the car still achieves awards at Nationals (not W.A) and other major events (The most recent being a "Car of the Day" award at the 2012 NSW All Holdens Day in Sydney) some 15 years after being restored. It is also noteworthy that the car is virtually untouched since Jeff's initial work. So I feel that I need to respect all of that including Steve Clark's meticulous attention during his ownership.

I don't know of too many Monaros which were in the same condition as Jeff's car in 1998 and are in as good condition as it is today without any major work.

I really enjoy driving the car occasionally but I have others which I drive very often.

I only wish it was possible for me to attend the 2012 Nats.

Cheers Guys.

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