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A pillars on early HK coupes, and inner C pillars as well. Only lasted a few weeks in production, possibly a fraction more.
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I bet there were a lot of changes in FX...48215 in the very beginning.The door lock snib on the rear door of the FX was moved to the front of the door, I think late 1948 or early 1949 and the car was released in nov 48. Where are the early holden blokes now?.....Jack
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I bet there were a lot of changes in FX...48215 in the very beginning.The door lock snib on the rear door of the FX was moved to the front of the door, I think late 1948 or early 1949 and the car was released in nov 48. Where are the early holden blokes now?.....Jack
The FX door lock snib change was in Feb 1951, meaning the older type rear doors were in production for over 2 years. Dr Terry. _________________________________________ When calculating a car restoration budget, be as accurate as you can & then double the final figure. It will be closer to the truth. |
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Just thinking out loud! At least I got the 130 being around before the 138 right! So that would mean that both the 130 and the 138 were unique (LJ XU-1 aside) where they both ran early and late type rocker gear, whereas the bigger 6cyl engines changed from adjustable to fixed at HQ engine release?
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From July 1971 6 cyl motors have different mains don't they as the caps bolts are bit wider apart. And the 149 motor is the only one with less welch plugs?? Are 130 and 138 the same as the other reds welch plugs. I do believe Japan had extra tax on 2.2L engines and over. the big 138 = 2250cc and the 130ci = 2130cc Imagine driving a 130 HQ i wonder if they could get a 130 with an auto. Edited by user Saturday, 30 October 2010 2:21:46 AM(UTC)
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Dr Terry, I'm not sure about that, I'm working off memory so I'll have to believe you there.... Jack
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speaking of export cars when I worked at Holden during the VL-VN days we had 2.0l 6cyl engines in VL export models that took leaded petrol , towards the VN release an export order was cancelled for the VL 2.0l so working on a Saturday we had to change the petrol tanks and other bits for our unleaded market mainly for the filler neck small for unleaded, I believe it was about 100 cars. Also there was a 2.0l 4cyl VN commodore for export that I drove in the plant it looked like the efi camira 2.0l.
I only knew of the one car so it was either a one of or built on the other shift!
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Non-power steer VNs / VN SL models are also another short production run. How long did they run for before Holden dropped the model & made the Exec with standard power-steer the base model VN?
That would make the V6 idler pulley & mount (to replace the pump) one of the shortest lived production parts.
You would naturally think that the intermediate shaft linking the column to the rack would also have had the short life, but it was also used on the export models (4 cyl that cloudy mentioned) and lived a lot longer. You could still buy that part new from Holden up until a few years ago.
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commodorenut you might be interested to know about a one off VN calais built for one of the big bosses at GMH pre march 1990 ,the body and panels were taken to Des Higgins body works in Salisbury SA and was painted pearl white before going back on line to be built, it was a 5.0lt and had IRS put in(before they went into production)I checked the car out while it was on a lunch break.
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Very interesting. The VQ IRS would have been well into pre-production testing phase by then, so it would be like putting a jigsaw puzzle together with a few different pieces, but designed to fit the same puzzle.
It would also have been a good test-case for the production line guys - regarding the different underbody brackets & fittings for the upcoming IRS models.
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I woud not include the A pilars on Monaro as these were a changed part, if you are going to do that one i am sure there are thousands of bits that changed slightly without notice.
How about the sill mold extension on the dogleg of HK Kingswoods, was dropped after a short time.
Some special edition badges, like the Olympic cars that were use to ferry athletes and officials. These had a round pillar badge and dash compartment door badge.
Same with HQ 25th and HX 50th anniversary cars, VS statesman 50th anniversary dash badge.
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Geez Warren, bit tough! You have a good point though, but the original question was the longest running unchanged part. So a part that changes normally changes p/n as well, not sure if this applied to the A-pillar though. If you count it out you'd have to count out heaps of other bits too.
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hats right, I would look at parts that were re numbered as this means the change was significant, or not interchangeable, ie mistake made.
Some changes can be because a new manufacturer produces it, or someone made a mistake, like the litre liter badge that we spent time on recently.
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ok..for the any part question...i think this would be one of the rarest...
the rubber at the floor for the gearstick on hq 350 with muncie and a9x with super t10..
To be pedantic, the Super T10 A9X wasn't a 'production' part. AFAIK none were fitted in production, they were however homologated for racing.
To add to rare gearshift boots, what about the console boot on an HR Premier Opel 4-speed shifter.
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If it's major body parts, then the floorpan/trans tunnel of the VL only lasted 10 months before being changed to accomodate the V8. This also necessitated a host of new parts - console, carpet, 6 cylinder shifter, and the heater box also changed around this time, although I'm not sure if it's related to the floorpan change.
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This reminds me of a story I heard that the first VL cars (bodies) were actually built at Nissan and shipped here to be finished. Nissan supplied the vast majority of the car so it kind of fits. When the Holden mechanical parts were introduced later in the run the bodies were altered to local specs. Don't know how true it is though. look out, the guru is coming through... |
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Greetings, How about a quiz as to the least used part on a Holden? That is the part that was used the least number of times on any model of car. I would imagine that it was someting used on the shortest running model but you never know. I don't know what it would be but am very keen to learn what everyone thinks on this. A guess would be something like Mick mentioned on the non-power steering VNs but maybe also the speedo adaptors for the low ratio axles on four speed cars in HK through to HQ? I don't know how you would prove the answer to this question either come to think of it.
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Greetings, How about a quiz as to the least used part on a Holden? That is the part that was used the least number of times on any model of car. I would imagine that it was someting used on the shortest running model but you never know. I don't know what it would be but am very keen to learn what everyone thinks on this. A guess would be something like Mick mentioned on the non-power steering VNs but maybe also the speedo adaptors for the low ratio axles on four speed cars in HK through to HQ? I don't know how you would prove the answer to this question either come to think of it.
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I would say you are spot on with the Stewart Warner speedo adaptors on HQ 350 4-speed with 3.36 and 3.55:1 diffs. Less than the number of fingers on your two hands. Now that is a rare part!
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Vinyl roof cut off mold on HJ coupe
3.08:1 6 cylinder tailshafts in HK, one for opel, one for saginaw.
Power steering pump on 253/308 on HT/G with air con
307 manual air con carby
HQ Kingswood "GTS" dash fascia
HQ tacho dash (not GTS, has fuel guage in clock spot)
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Vinyl roof cut off mold on HJ coupe
3.08:1 6 cylinder tailshafts in HK, one for opel, one for saginaw.
Power steering pump on 253/308 on HT/G with air con
307 manual air con carby
HQ Kingswood "GTS" dash fascia
HQ tacho dash (not GTS, has fuel guage in clock spot)
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Greetings, Where's the proof and numbers to back up these claims? Vinyl roof moulds are more common than you might think and every HT/G Brougham with air had the pump you mention. On the HQ speedo adaptors front, confirmed numbers are 9 for the 3.36:1 ratio adaptor and 4 for the 3.55:1 unit. The HQ guru in Sydney has confirmed these totals from the HQ build data. Like the guy said, you can count each of these one two hands. I think we have our winner. look out, the guru is coming through... |
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Agree, they probably were the rarest part fitted to a GMH product although any part (or total assembly) off a 12 bolt in HK-HT 1837 may beat it, especially gears for any single ratio.
What about the shortest lived part though?
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Vinyl roof molds are different between sedan and coupe, and the HJ type has a grain in it. Of the 900 HJ coupes, how many do you think had vinyl roof? Air con is still rare in HT/G even in the Brougham. Yes add the HK 12 bolt as there were more than 1 ratio, so each ratio would count. But 4 units as a confirmed number you would think to be the winner. However this same part was used on 4.10 rear axle on HK, so add a few more. 4.55 and 4.88 use different adaptors again, each. Anyway, 4.10 rear axle in HK would be Total adaptors less HQ adaptor. Unfortunately we do not have access to all the records so confirmation of numbers is never going to happen. Discounting number plaques which are unique per vehicle. GM-H only did this on two cars, 50th VC commodore and the dealership top 50th I think. Mick will know their exact name. Warren The best part about being wrong is the pleasure it brings to others. Edited by user Tuesday, 9 November 2010 3:50:47 AM(UTC)
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