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Just be interested for everyones opinion on this? It's been for sale for a wee while over here. Matching numbers but I think there will be a slight rust issue, hehe.... At least it appears to have all of the major coupe specific bits. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=336324781
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Just a question that comes to mind.
What is a matching number Holden?
I assume matching numbers means that the engine, chassis, body, vin and whatever else numbers are the same number and therefore match.
How do numbers that match what is written in the original owners manual constitute "matching numbers"?
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I always thought it meant the car had it's original tags, chassis number and engine number.
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The term matching numbers these days simply means that all of the relevant numbers (engine, chassis, body etc.) are as they were when it left the factory. The only numbers that 'match' on 70s Holden are the chassis number & its duplicate on the Compliance plate.
I believe the term originated in the USA where the engine number is the same as the last part of the chassis number. Aussie Falcons etc. are the same. Very easy to see if the engine matches the body.
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I spose it is an interesting philosophical question the whole matching numbers thing (you can do the same with 'it was only original once'). The original NZ registration papers for a new car it lists the ID numbers of the motor (maybe gearbox). You'd be safer making the statement in that case.
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I know I'm probably turning into a grumpy old man, lol, but why does everything have to be watered down. I think Dr T is correct. Watch this youtube video re the last C4 Corvette built and check out the guy on the assembly line stamping the "matching numbers". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YII-h21xJvw the stamping occurs at 4 mins 50 sec. I know it's only semantics and if the numbers match the original paperwork then I guess they are matching numbers per se, or maybe "original numbers" for want of a better term.
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With HQ-HZ a lot of cars had the chassis changed through accidents or cracking so it wouldn`t be uncommon for these to be miss- matched, In SA most old cars do not have chassis numbers record on the rego papers so its not a big issue over here when getting old cars reg`d. If someone wants a classic muscle car and they are not too fussed about the chassis number they will get one slighty cheaper than a matching car. people I have spoken with would be happy with all the ID tags on the car matching and not so much chassis or engine numbers as long as the engine is at least period to the build year.
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Who bought this got a bit of a steal, it's not perfect but was originally $35k when put on trademe http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=337194810
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