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Originally posted by HKTG Parts Recovery
Must be. Looks like the price is going down down down. The most desirable of early Monaros and this is his asking price? I know of 307 cars insured for way more than that. To think 3 or 4 years ago when the prices were peaking this would of been a $200k car. I personally havent seen it close up but looks impressive in the photos, plus has been awarded as he says in the listing.

Just think of the money that has been pumped into the reproduction of panels and other parts for these because back then they saw the price NOS was selling for on ebay etc.and thought there'd be a market. They'd want to sell those GTS guards for half the price if they want to move them out the door.

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Prices for cars have settled. Over the next 12 to 18 mths will be a good time to be a buyer. Smart people(like you)sit on good stuff when they can. Right now if the good stuff is out there it is more likely that the seller has to sell it rather than wants to sell it. Plenty of people sitting right now.
When good stuff comes out people pay good money for it. I like this if I am a seller and hate it if I am buying....lol.

Some are saying the market will never come back. Rubbish.
Fact is any quality car is still worth more than pre-boom (Same pattern over many decades). Anybody who thinks that old desireable cars will plummett in value has rocks in their head. Even cars that were thought of as daggy and undesireable as collectables fifteen or twenty years ago are now considered cool and worth more now (say XM Falcon or even a poverty pack 6cyl HK.T.G Monaro).

As for parts becoming cheaper. Well this rubber drain bladder for HK.T.G went for $302.oo a couple of days ago. Would've had trouble making ten bucks before Ebay.These "crazy" sale prices are still being achieved regularly.







There are still people out there who will pay $302 for a $5 (real world value) part.

The market still has a heartbeat and does have a good future.
Cheers
Nick

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Originally posted by HJHeaven


For example, at 36, i can more vividly remember the HQ's (and 70's american muscle) and later more than any other car. My brother in law is quite a bit younger than me, and whilst he appreciates the monaro's, sandmans and the like, he chose VN SS cause that's what he remembered from his younger days (he wouln't even remember a new early commodore like VB's and VC's).

I'd be far happier with a HQ 2 door GTS than a HT/K/G (or hot rod for that matter) that some of the older readers would remember from their youth (and can now afford).

Probably not the whole picture, but i think it will impact on where prices go from here....

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EXACTLY my point. The younger generation will not want these old cars. If it doesnt have air con and power steer it will be given a big wide berth. My kids will not want my dirty old HK, they might be interested in the keeping and restoring the Coupe 4. But they will not want an old HK, and I hear it all the time "no point keeping the old cars, my kids are not interested"
This is part of the reason why Darren sold his car. His kids had no interest in it what so ever, so it was sold to purchase a family friendly investment.

If interest in these cars keeps declining, so will the price.

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Originally posted by HKTG Parts Recovery
Must be. Looks like the price is going down down down. The most desirable of early Monaros and this is his asking price? I know of 307 cars insured for way more than that. To think 3 or 4 years ago when the prices were peaking this would of been a $200k car. I personally havent seen it close up but looks impressive in the photos, plus has been awarded as he says in the listing.

Just think of the money that has been pumped into the reproduction of panels and other parts for these because back then they saw the price NOS was selling for on ebay etc.and thought there'd be a market. They'd want to sell those GTS guards for half the price if they want to move them out the door.

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As for parts becoming cheaper. Well this rubber drain bladder for HK.T.G went for $302.oo a couple of days ago. Would've had trouble making ten bucks before Ebay.These "crazy" sale prices are still being achieved regularly.







There are still people out there who will pay $302 for a $5 (real world value) part.

The market still has a heartbeat and does have a good future.
Cheers
Nick

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Geez, and it isn't even anything like an original! You can buy perfect repros in the US for less than $10!

Well there you go! I've only ever seen the Camaro one on cars then, plus what is left of the originals with the clip still attached.

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Originally posted by HJHeaven
I know i am not particularly qualified to comment on the price thing.....

But i do think that one of the major factors that people tend to ignore is the age of the car and the buyer.

For example, at 36, i can more vividly remember the HQ's (and 70's american muscle) and later more than any other car. My brother in law is quite a bit younger than me, and whilst he appreciates the monaro's, sandmans and the like, he chose VN SS cause that's what he remembered from his younger days (he wouln't even remember a new early commodore like VB's and VC's).

I'd be far happier with a HQ 2 door GTS than a HT/K/G (or hot rod for that matter) that some of the older readers would remember from their youth (and can now afford).

Probably not the whole picture, but i think it will impact on where prices go from here....

Mark
Maybe this is why the HQ two doors seem to have held their price a little better than the K/T/G.

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I hear what you're saying (The correct demographic is getting older and starting to die out.)but I disagree. If that was true then 1950's & early 60's classics would now be tanking but that is not true. Look at anything remotely desireable from 1948 on and you will see most of them strongly holding their value. Everything from Buick straight eights to Healy BN 100/4&6s,MGBs,356 Porsche, Minis, Beetles, Bristols, E Type Jags the list goes on and on. Cars started to become user friendly in the fities and are still quite useable today providing reasonable economy, weather protection and driveability.
It is true that some models don't do that well but most chrome bumper cars are at least holding their value.
Full rego could well become a possible problem in the future but at least the Govt has provided the clubs with historic rego. Very very few of these cars are driven daily any more even on full rego. I don't think the Govts are really that worried about the presence of old cars on the roads. They know the numbers.....
Gillards ill fated cash for clunkers idea is aimed at rubbishy fifteen year old stuff and will never work anyway if it becomes legislated.
50s/60s/70s cars WILL remain popular and desireable for generations to come.

Cheers
Nick

Slightly off topic, I was down at Rare Spares head office on Wednesday with Dr Terry and Warren. In one of the warehouses was a 337 Monaro in Ermine with 14X trim. It was a zero option car, ie 161, crash box, drum brakes and no forced air. Warren commented that it was only the second of that kind he has ever seen.

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Slightly off topic, I was down at Rare Spares head office on Wednesday with Dr Terry and Warren. In one of the warehouses was a 337 Monaro in Ermine with 14X trim. It was a zero option car, ie 161, crash box, drum brakes and no forced air. Warren commented that it was only the second of that kind he has ever seen.

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Totally agree. Very rare car.

I found one in a paddock once. Found the owner and convinced him that he would be better of giving it to me instead of just letting it rust into the ground. (this was a good 15 years ago)

With some fuel, a battery and some air in the tyres, we drove it out. But it was that rusty that half way out the Y frames collapsed and fell away from the body. So we had to reverse it out from there.

Being a "base model" we wrecked it out and thought no more about it. That is until I was with Warren one day when he was saying how rare no option base models were. If it had of been a 327 we would have saved it.
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