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#1 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 6:18:13 AM(UTC)
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Hi guy's

I'm after anyone that was around the street machine era during the late 60's to the mid 80's.

Long story made short, I'm trying to find out some more info about Valvoline XLD.

I know that to most the general consensus of Valvoline is that it's just a run of the mill joe average product. Not to be compered to the likes of Penrite or Nulon.

There has been a few events or comments I have come across that have just kept me interested in the product.

I'm yet to find out more on this, a very well regarded No BS style engine builder I know told me that for many years during the 70's era Valvoline XLD was the top choice for tuff street engines. GTHO, XU1, ect. He even told me that it was used in a supercharged speed boat motor that ran on methanol. It was often the speed shop oil. He mentioned that only once oils like Corse Plus and Penrite HPR came out and where directly marketed toward the performance street / race seen that XLD took a back seat and just became a standard type oil. The latter popularity of synthetic's pushed the perception of XLD further down, but he still had no issues using it in tuff V8 engines driven hard. This to me in the current day seems odd as the oil is now a entry level range product and most of Valvoline products would not seem a match for Castrol Edge, Penrite or Nulon.

I'm keen to hear more from anyone that was around that 60's to 80's street machine era that could tell me more about how XLD was used.

I'm also keen to hear if anyone has any recent stories of uses with XLD and it's latter developed oils like Engine Armour. I'm just trying to see past the marking (or lack of it) and perhaps there oils are a under rated gem?
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#2 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 7:03:20 AM(UTC)
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When I was an apprentice mechanic in the early 80's my tech teachers swore by XLD.

Basically I have used it since then (later XLD premium) almost exclusively. My EB Falcon on gas (supposedly hard on oil) used it from the moment I bought it in 1998 with 180,000 on the clock until I replaced the engine due to oil leaks at 500,000km. I then used it in the next engine.

Recently I puled the head off said 500,00km old engine and found that there are still the remnants of hone marks in the bores. With the rocker cover off the rocker gear still looked clean enough to eat off.


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#3 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 7:12:20 AM(UTC)
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Thanks heaps mate. That was a great post. No rubbish, just good real info based on your real word experience. Hard to find that on the internet.

How often (kms) do you, where you changing it?
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#4 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 7:32:36 AM(UTC)
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I was changing it in the 80's every 5000km but in the EB I changed it every 10,000.

Unfortunately I don't use it anymore as it's too thick for my BA or the Wife's Subaru.

When My Capri hits the road I'll use it in that.

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#5 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 7:41:09 AM(UTC)
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Are you still using Valvoline Products? LIke the newer Durablend for the BA?

I've been a big Penrite user as it's always had a performance and quality based background.
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#6 Posted : Monday, 2 January 2012 7:51:11 AM(UTC)
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Nope I tend to use the Repco branded oil these days.

5 litres of XLD used to cost about 10 times the cost of a litre of petrol now it's more like 20 times so I have tended to "economise"

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 3 January 2012 12:34:19 AM(UTC)
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I use XLD and i have tried armour it left more metal on the the magnet drain plug over the same km and driving conditions an i will not us it again.
No one can bag the XLD oil.
I have used it in my road bikes and dirt bikes with no problems and they all coped a flogging but with the oil changed early.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 4 January 2012 6:46:35 PM(UTC)
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They now make a 15w40 XLD premium if you believe that would be better than the armor.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:08:09 AM(UTC)
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Francis the 20w50 has been proven but we will have to Wait and see with the 15w40.
Have a look see at the ratings sj/cf.

What i see is that modern oils are being forced to comply with new laws and this is changing the tried and tested, proven formulas and now we are into trying other stuff.
The new diesel oils are not as good, some say because the good stuff is not in the new oil and it's all due to the cat converted ones will be destroying the cat earlier if you use the old type oils.
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