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#1 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 2:08:54 AM(UTC)
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After some info as i'm not sure where to start, on the weekend i saw an old holden that had the maroon and white number plates,i assume that it is under club rego,i didn't get the chance to ask him about it.
I have a few cars that are still registered and it is going to cost me a fortune to pay for another twelve months,
is there a certain club to be in that dose the club rego or do they all do it, and how many k's are you alowed to do and cost each year and are you allowed to driver it any time you like,can any one be able to shed some light on the subject.
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#2 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 2:46:47 AM(UTC)
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Different States have different systems. If you're still Victorian based, perhaps a Victorian can answer the question. Might also be an idea to look at the Vic RTA website to see if they cover the rules there.
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#3 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 5:22:49 AM(UTC)
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I take it you are Queensland as Moroon and white are our standard plates.

You cannot have club rego on standard plates here.

You either have S plates, black and white plates, personalised plates or prestige plates. Rego sticker has a half and half colour.

To get club rego you need to join a club that has registered with the motor transport.

Club rego is just that, it is for club events so no you cannot just drive any time you want, otherwise we would all drive cars over 30 years old as the rego is just under 20% of a normal rego (80% off).

You can go on all club runs, meetings and sanctioned events, like swap meets, car shows etc. Most clubs also put in Harry's dinner and munch inn at Acacia Ridge every week as club sanctioned events. You will need to carry the current news letter in the car.

You can also test drive to 15km and you can take further to specialist repairers, ie say an EFI specialist 30km from home.

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#4 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 6:27:49 AM(UTC)
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Originally posted by Warren Turnbull
I take it you are Queensland as Moroon and white are our standard plates.

You cannot have club rego on standard plates here.

You either have S plates, black and white plates, personalised plates or prestige plates. Rego sticker has a half and half colour.

To get club rego you need to join a club that has registered with the motor transport.

Club rego is just that, it is for club events so no you cannot just drive any time you want, otherwise we would all drive cars over 30 years old as the rego is just under 20% of a normal rego (80% off).

You can go on all club runs, meetings and sanctioned events, like swap meets, car shows etc. Most clubs also put in Harry's dinner and munch inn at Acacia Ridge every week as club sanctioned events. You will need to carry the current news letter in the car.

You can also test drive to 15km and you can take further to specialist repairers, ie say an EFI specialist 30km from home.

Warren
I think Jonesy is a bit further South Warren.
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#5 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 6:32:03 AM(UTC)
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The 60-80 Holden Enthusiasts Club is able to sign members for Club Permit Plates

Have a look here

http://www.holdencarclubs.com/?page_id=14
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#6 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 7:13:38 AM(UTC)
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Hi Steve

In Vic you can get a 45 or 90 day permit by being a member of a car club who is part of the scheme.

You can drive the car any day of the year which you want but it needs to be logged in the log book, maximum of 90 days per rego year.
Costs is about $120 for the 90day permit.

I've had my car on it now since Aug last year and have only used it 4 times, its a great saving on rego for a car that doesnt see light to often.

If you check out the Vic roads web site it lists all the clubs which are a part of the scheme, each club will have different requirements to rego via.

Cheers Mark.
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#7 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 11:39:25 PM(UTC)
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Looks like us NSW people get screwed with the rego and the number plate costs, I know they are looking at doing the QLD and VIC way but that could be 10 years in the making. They want to make money not lose it.
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#8 Posted : Monday, 13 February 2012 11:50:06 PM(UTC)
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Looks like us NSW people get screwed with the rego and the number plate costs, I know they are looking at doing the QLD and VIC way but that could be 10 years in the making. They want to make money not lose it.

If you're talking about historic rego, I believe NSW is the cheapest scheme & the simplest.

Approx $60 per year, no restrictions on number of outings, as long as they are 'club related' & no log books to fill out (& get severely fined if they're not filled out).

AFAIK nobody is "looking at doing it the Qld & Vic way".

HJGTS just quoted $120 per year in Vic.


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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012 2:33:32 AM(UTC)
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Doesn,t NSW cars have to be unmodified like SA? In QLD modified cars can be on it as long as they are roadworthy.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012 2:35:19 AM(UTC)
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Thank's guy's this helps alot now i have the info to get started and i have one car that would benifit from this and make it easier on the pocket,I'll give the 60-80 club a call and get the ball rolling
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012 3:02:09 AM(UTC)
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Doesn,t NSW cars have to be unmodified like SA? In QLD modified cars can be on it as long as they are roadworthy.

Yes that is true, because the Veteran & Vintage guys originally set-up the scheme, way back in 1959. There is a similar scheme for hot-rods (pre-1948), but the street machine guys have never been organised enough to get anything up & running.

There is a meeting concerning this very topic (amongst others) on Sun 26-Feb-2012 at Eastern Creek Raceway for anybody concerned. All the different groups, hot-rod, street machine, CMC, bikers will all be there as a united group. Hopefully it will be of some benefit.

I think the subject of RTA engineering of street cars will also be discussed.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012 5:15:19 AM(UTC)
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Yes Dr Terry

It does cost $120 for the 90 day permit or $64 for the 45 day permit but unlike you guys we arent restricted to club events, we can elect to use what ever days of the year we like as long as we done excede the permit number.

Filling out the log book takes only a minute, the date, what your doing (i.e. drive to the hills or swapmeet) and the drivers name and sig.

Its a great scheme, its taken well over ten years to finally have it but now many people in clubs are seeing the benefits.

Cheers Mark.

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 14 February 2012 11:57:14 PM(UTC)
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I seriously looked at club rego a few years ago(I live in NSW)and tried to figure out the rules!!!
What an effing minefield!!!

Every club has it's own interpretation of the rules.
Some clubs will only allow stock standard cars while others will allow stuff like rollcages etc because they do track days.Other clubs will allow "perod" modifcations.

After many phone calls to the RTA I began to realize they didn't have a good handle on the rules and couldn't get a straight answer out of them.....TOTALLY USELESS...

I'll give you one example that I came across,these south coast guys came up with the idea that if they formed a club and filled out the right paperwork they could have really cheap rego.Now some of the other clubs know about it and are pretty pissed off about it.
The problem is that these clubs have different rules themselves and it all just seemed way to dodgy for me.

In the end I just bit the bullet and payed extra for rego.

The VIC scheme looks unreal,that would suit me down to the ground and I wouldn't have too deal with some of those Nazi's that usally run clubs.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 12:27:38 AM(UTC)
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can any vic members tell me if the club scheme here allows modified vehicles that are safe but not exactly "roadworthy"

such as the horrific crime of losing a carbon canister, or radial tyres that dont meet ADR's or worse things like puppy teasing and tree punching engine mods.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 1:29:37 AM(UTC)
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Originally posted by Tex Scrotum rides again
I seriously looked at club rego a few years ago(I live in NSW)and tried to figure out the rules!!!
What an effing minefield!!!

Every club has it's own interpretation of the rules.
Some clubs will only allow stock standard cars while others will allow stuff like rollcages etc because they do track days.Other clubs will allow "perod" modifcations.

After many phone calls to the RTA I began to realize they didn't have a good handle on the rules and couldn't get a straight answer out of them.....TOTALLY USELESS...

I'll give you one example that I came across,these south coast guys came up with the idea that if they formed a club and filled out the right paperwork they could have really cheap rego.Now some of the other clubs know about it and are pretty pissed off about it.
The problem is that these clubs have different rules themselves and it all just seemed way to dodgy for me.

Yes, the club's interpretation of the rules is the problem. But I don't see how it can be that difficult.

Unfortunately at present, modified cars are not allow on historic rego.

The RTA rules say the car must be as close to original as possible, but period accessories are allowed. The problem is when does an 'accessory' become a 'modification'. Things like car radios, weathershields, sunvisors, exterior mirrors of all types, wheel trims, chrome or alloy wheels from the era would be considered accessories. However, what about lowered suspension, multiple carbies, overly wide wheels & engine conversions, are these modifications or accessories.

Where the car clubs are getting dodgy is, as you say, when guys get together & bend the rules to allow all sorts of modifications, dodgy or otherwise, for the sake of cheap rego. If a copper pulls you over & he knows the rules & your car is not legal, you will be booked for being out of registration & CTP ($1,000 +) & the club could lose its authority to issue permits.

The RTA do not have the manpower to police it, & why should they. They leave it to the clubs to self-regulate. If any club comes to grief with the RTA it can stuff it up for everybody.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 6:13:10 AM(UTC)
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[quote]Originally posted by greenhj
can any vic members tell me if the club scheme here allows modified vehicles that are safe but not exactly "roadworthy"

such as the horrific crime of losing a carbon canister, or radial tyres that dont meet ADR's or worse things like puppy teasing and tree punching engine mods.
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greenhj.The deal is.... vicroads require a roadworthy certificate OR a club certified certificate(as inspected by the clubs technical officer) when YOU present your application paperwork at vicroads for a permit. Any club (i hope) would not be silly enough to jeopadise the Association Inorporation Act (of which the club must be a member) or agreement with vicroads or take the risk of loosing credability as a club just to pass a car that is unroadworthy...so in short NO, the vehicle must pass a roadworthy or technical inspection. AL
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 7:30:07 AM(UTC)
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Most clubs require a current roadworthy certificate when first applying for club permit. So if it is stock looking and RWC you should be ok.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 15 February 2012 5:59:55 PM(UTC)
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thanks, i was just curious given some of the cars ive seen on this scheme.

my stuff will stay full rego.
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