Hi All, We are having voting in our state today and the ex minister for transport was at the school where I was voting so I hit her up with the question "Why should I be persecuted with multiple registrations fees each year just because I like to collect cars and bikes and also like to drive and ride them on a regular basis....meaning that classic rego is a waste of time with too many restrictions.

What I am saying and explained to her was I still do an average amount of KLM's per year in all of the vehicles added together but I have to pay on average 3 -5 car regos and 2 bike regos. Why can I not just have one rego plate to fit to either vehicle per driver, meaning I have a rego plate and I decide to drive the WB van to work and my missus who has a rego plate then drives her Fiesta but then the next day I may wish to ride the bike and she wants to take the ute, we just still use our same plates but on different vehicles. I was basically told that this question has been raised and they looked (Quickly) into it and basically couldn't be bothered because multiple vehicle owners go into it with their eyes wide opened and why should people who don't choose to own multiple vehicle have to carry the cost of those who do. What she was meaning by this was that the money the government would loose from the extra regos from myself and others (which would be people like yourselves) they would have to increase the price on rego or something else to cover it. I then replied that you would be looking at a guesstament possibly one in a hundred people having multiple regos to pay so at the end of the year the bottom line figure would not be significantly different but she basically fobbed me off saying that we were going around in circles with the conversation to which I replied that the government is not prepared to do anything for the average joe except take his money but not provide any sort of extra service for it.

I pay well over $4000 in registration each year for private vehicles but I only do 20000klm in total and my missus does about 15000klm in total but for my extra money I am still riding/driving through massive potholes, being held up on grid locked streets around new schools at parent pick up time due to poor traffic planning and waiting on freeways that have become car parks on my way to and from work because of the increase in housing estates in the areas but the ill planned or lack of infrastrution of the surrounding road systems designed to carry the extra population.

I am not a person that is very motivated in these sort of issues (Getting up on my soap box) but I wish that there was someway of organising some sort of protest with the government regarding this blatant rip off of registration fees from people with an interest in cars and bikes, those that have a passion of restoring, collecting and owning vehicles that wish to drive their collection (Which is 80% of the reason why we own them) when ever they feel like it but restrict there obsession to just a few because it is just not cost feasible to have so many registration fees to pay each year or have vehicles that are unable to be driven legally on the streets and have to be parked up. If you agree then somehow we need to stand united and tell the government that the current arrangement sucks and is not fair.

While the theory is good, how would you ensure every car you want to put your plates on is roadworthy? Eg in NSW we have to have an annual pink slip inspection, and once the car passes, you can pay the rego for another 12 months.

If you had 6 cars you wanted to run your own personal plate on, would they make you get all 6 inspected when the rego falls due for the plate?

I think a more workable solution would be like insurance - multi-policy discounts - each additional rego should say drop by say 15-20% in cost, based on the fact that each would be doing reduced km for every car you add.

I've got mates who have some of their collected cars registered in the grandparents & other elderly relative's names (who are no longer driving, nor car-owning), purely to take advantage of pensioner rego so they can afford it.


The thing that s***s me about rego taxes is that they don't take into account that my wife does 3000km a year, while I do 45,000km a year. We both pay the same, yet she rarely uses the state roads that are supposedly helped with funding from this.

Ahh you say - what about petrol excise - that's more user pays, and yes, I agree - you use more fuel, you pay more excise. But Joe Green uses 1/3 as much fuel in his prius as I do in my 6L, so he only pays 1/3 the excise - maybe you think this is fair enough as I'm polluting more, but that car takes up just as much space on the road in the daily commute, and who's paying for the battery disposal at the end of it's (rather short) life? Not Joe Green. Us taxayers will be covering that too.

i dont mind paying multiple regos, i absolutly hate having to pay the TAC insurance 4 times though, i basically pay insurance on my person 4 times a year, i want to get bloody good care if i ever crash

In Victoria (Melbourne) it is now $676.50 for the total registration charge for a Light Vehicle. $449.90 of this is because of TAC (Transport Accident Commission). So 66% of the registration charge is to provide an injury coverage for those people involved in motor vehicle accidents.

The other 33'ish% would be the running of the registration and roads. Simplest way to reduce registration cost would be to reduce TAC charge. Considering most TAC injuries are attributed or have involved drink driving, drug driving, not wearing seatbelt, distracted whilst using mobile phone, speed, illegal or unsafe road behaviour, hooning, unsafe motor vehicle, etc.

If people could think whilst driving, and be a bit more serious about it and not treat it like an iPhone app. Driving a motor vehicle is not a game. You are not in your lougeroom. Concentrate, drive seriously.

I am not speaking to any driver specifically, it is just my opinion on the attitude of more of the drivers these days.

So how about they halve the registration charge, and add another 10% excise/ tax to fuel, as that is more km based.

I hate paying double innsurance , I pay fully comp then pay 3rd party on reg which is a big part of your reg payment.

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Originally posted by cloudy
I hate paying double innsurance , I pay fully comp then pay 3rd party on reg which is a big part of your reg payment.

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Full comp on vehicle insurance is for property damage. Run into a jewellery store and you are fully covered.

3rd party on reg is for injury. CTP (Compulsory Third Party). No-one can sue you for injury. You are covered.

In USA, you run into someone, and they can sue you for injury, as it is up to you to have the CTP. So a bump up the bum of someones car, and them claiming they have a sore back for the rest of their life can cost you your house. Here in Australia they cannot take your house off you. CTP takes care of it all.

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Originally posted by commodorenut
While the theory is good, how would you ensure every car you want to put your plates on is roadworthy? Eg in NSW we have to have an annual pink slip inspection, and once the car passes, you can pay the rego for another 12 months.

If you had 6 cars you wanted to run your own personal plate on, would they make you get all 6 inspected when the rego falls due for the plate?

I think a more workable solution would be like insurance - multi-policy discounts - each additional rego should say drop by say 15-20% in cost, based on the fact that each would be doing reduced km for every car you add.

I've got mates who have some of their collected cars registered in the grandparents & other elderly relative's names (who are no longer driving, nor car-owning), purely to take advantage of pensioner rego so they can afford it.


The thing that s***s me about rego taxes is that they don't take into account that my wife does 3000km a year, while I do 45,000km a year. We both pay the same, yet she rarely uses the state roads that are supposedly helped with funding from this.

Ahh you say - what about petrol excise - that's more user pays, and yes, I agree - you use more fuel, you pay more excise. But Joe Green uses 1/3 as much fuel in his prius as I do in my 6L, so he only pays 1/3 the excise - maybe you think this is fair enough as I'm polluting more, but that car takes up just as much space on the road in the daily commute, and who's paying for the battery disposal at the end of it's (rather short) life? Not Joe Green. Us taxayers will be covering that too.

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I am in Queensland and we do not have to do yearly road worthy slips just the one when registering the car if it has been deregistered from new or if you sell the car Registered then it must have a road worthy slip. With this in mind then every car you own and would want to drive would have a sticker on it just like your rego sticker stating that the car has had an inspection carried out (Yearly then if that is what the states wants) so again you just attach the plate to what ever car you want to drive just as long it is displaying the inspection sticker and drive it....simple . Germany has one plate for two cars (Possibly more I am not sure) but they can change plates form their summer car if they own one (ie Convertible) to the winter saloon with out the worry of deregistering and reregistering etc. As far as "user pay" possibilities, YES that is another big rego scam. My mother does 5000klm a year but also pays full rego, if insurance companies can do insurance covers for agreed KLM's then I am sure registration can be dealt with in the same way with out any real trouble. Sure people can dupe the system but those people will dupe any system, it is just that I don't like being duped by politicians that want our votes but then say that there is nothing that they can do.

The heading of the thread, "Cheaper registration is not important" is a valid point.
But I'm sorry, as I see trying to expand your "hobby", & trying to justify getting it cheaper for multiple cars, as a lost argument.
If you want more toys, it's gunna cost you full whack.

Edited by user Tuesday, 27 March 2012 8:17:57 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Originally posted by Mr Sir
[quote]Originally posted by Utility8
The heading of the thread, "Cheaper registration is not important" is a valid point.
But I'm sorry, as I see trying to expand your "hobby", & trying to justify getting it cheaper for multiple cars, as a lost argument.
If you want more toys, it's gunna cost you full whack.

Heading reads "Cheaper registration is not impossible" and why just accept something because it is so when obviously the alternatives are more common sense, cost effective for the average Joe, not impossible and would not effect the bottom line of the governments tax tally one bit. I don't believe it is asking for something for nothing. I have no problem with paying registration to drive on the road but I am one person so I can only drive one vehicle at a time.

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Sorry, yes, my mistake. My quote of thread topic should have read "Cheaper registration is not impossible".