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Hi,
My Hr is almost ready for rego however my steering box has to much free play so will not pass blue slip.
Can anyone tell me where I can get my steering box for my Hr redone in around the wollongong/sydney area.
Also what are approxamate costs.
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Rare Spares have change over box. They are about $500, and I believe they have a new worm and sector in them.
If you are a member of a car club that has discounts with Rare Spares, you will get 10% off the price, more than your first year membership. |
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Rare Spares have change over box. They are about $500, and I believe they have a new worm and sector in them.
If you are a member of a car club that has discounts with Rare Spares, you will get 10% off the price, more than your first year membership.
Thanks for your reply. I cant see how they can charge 500 to do a box. When I spoke to rare spares they could not realy tell me what gets replaced/renewed in the box, only its reconditioned. Cheers specialhr |
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Well you decide, your choice. You want/need the steering box, or not. I have been told the worm and sector is new, along with seals and bearings, so it would only be your tube and casing that is original.
If no-one did reco steering box, then your HR is off the road forever until a suitable second hand unit is available MAYBE.
I have had a Rare Spares reco steering box in my EH years ago, and it was smooth and light. However It may also been part of all of the other front end parts being replaced too. |
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maybe you could make a new box for less then $500??? lol no free ride baby
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Originally posted by peter_flane
Rare Spares have change over box. They are about $500, and I believe they have a new worm and sector in them.
If you are a member of a car club that has discounts with Rare Spares, you will get 10% off the price, more than your first year membership.
Thanks for your reply.
I cant see how they can charge 500 to do a box.
When I spoke to rare spares they could not realy tell me what gets replaced/renewed in the box, only its reconditioned.
Cheers
specialhr
$500 is not such a bad price if they have supplied a new worm shaft & nut as part of the job. Yours can be overhauled at a cheaper price if your worm shaft & nut hasn't lost its case hardening (as most have). A normal overhaul without a new worm shaft would probably be around half that amount. I know to the average layman $500 sounds a lot of money for a rebuilt steering box, but with labour rates spiraling out of control because of rent, wage & worker's compensation increases & superannuation etc. etc. a few hours labour & a few parts adds up to $500 very quickly. There are many jobs that I no longer even quote on because I can't do them at a cheap enough price to compete. Dr Terry |
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Hi Guys,
sorry to dig up an old post but I've just rebuilt my hk steering box and for the cork sector shaft seal i just slotted it in the bottom of the housing without needing to remove the retainer and then pushed in the sector shaft but it split the cork seal. So i'm thinking I need to remove the retainer, put the sector shaft in and then put the cork seal on the sector shaft and slide it up is that how it's done? How to I remove the retainer does it just pry out? Thanks in advance!
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The following NEW parts go into the Rare Spares Steering Box. All had to be resourced and made as they were no longer available from GMH. Not all units supplied as changeover are suitable for rebuild which increases costs in maintaining core stock. They take time to build and check as Dr Terry advises. A car club discount is beneficial as EHLimo recommends.
1. 7400608 SEAL STEERING BOX SECTOR SHAFT F 1
2. 7409213 BUSHING STEERING BOX FE FC FB EK 2
3. 7417968 GASKET STEERING BOX EJ - HR 1
4. SBL500 PENRITE STEERING BOX LUBE 450G 1
5. FR5.20 BEARING & RACE WORM SHAFT HOLDEN 2
6. 7415338 SEAL STEERING COLUMN MOUNTING UP 1
7. 7419006 GROMMET STEERING COLUMN TO FIREW 1
8. 7415421 SECTOR SHAFT EJ HR STEERING BOX 1
9. 7422600 WORM & NUT ASSEMBLY EJ-HR 1
10. 7431807 SPRING PITMAN GEAR CONTROL HD HR 1
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Just another question I forgot to add - does anyone know if rares sell new worm & nut assembly for the 16.7 ratio hk box? Mine are ok but new ones would clearly be great! Andy
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The worm and nut we stock is about 18.0:1 which seems to be between the standard and the Monaro ratios. It is produced in Europe. To make either one specifically is not financially viable. They are very good quality and used in the rebuilt HK steering boxes.
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Thanks for the reply appreciate it.
Is that too light for power steering or will a bit of extra caster fix that?
Do you sell them separately - I've rebuilt the box already! I suppose my box is ok for now and I can grab a new set when I get sick of the notchyness.
Are the sector shafts all the same for the 16.7 / 20?
Also do you ever use a lip seal for the sector shaft? I've asked a few ppl now and they use them although I dont have a part number.
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-It is the same Pitman gear/sector shaft for both ratios, part number 7432891.
-If the box is notchy, either it has a problem, or the pitman gear lash is adjusted too tight. Bear in mind that for a used wormshaft/ball nut/pitman gear it will be looser in the middle of its travel and, if over tightened, bind up at the extremities of lock.
-The seal retainer can be tapped out from above with a brass drift, or prised out with the two screwdriver method from below. You might find the cork seal will be more cooperative and less likely to split if you give it a soak in oil before installing it, as recommended in the Shop manual. You can install the seal and retainer first and then install the pitman gear through it.
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Ah thanks for confirming I thought the sector was the same.
Looks like i'll just grab a better worm & nut from somewhere when I can find one.
To remove the lash at centre creates a little bit of a notchy feel out of the centre position and if I loosen the sector adjustor a little then I have play at centre. Seems like some wear in the worm and nut but I'll just live with it for now - i'm in the midst of installing power steering so will get that all operation first. Just about had a heart attack at the cost of replacing the hoses so I'm reusing the old ones for now......
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It is a balancing act to adjust it with used parts. Have you tried Roger at Holden Restomotive for your hoses? He is very helpful. www.earlyholdenparts.com.au
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Hi yes I have sourced several things from Roger he is extremely helpful and knowledgeable. His hoses are full repros though and consequently expensive I just need something that will do the job as it is not a concourse resto. Around $400 is the pirtek quote so I'll see......I'm starting to think I should have gone rack and pinion after all the hidden costs in rebuilding the old ram setup!
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Hi, can you just buy the bits from RS and restore my own steering box. Why, because need to do an original 4 speed one in the 186S HR I have.
I emailed RS direct, with NO response.
I suppose I will have to get a stuffed steering box and exchange it to get the parts to fix mine????
Any suggestions?????
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Steve
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The only parts unique to the 4-Speed steering box are those associated with the column tube.
This is also different between 3-Speed manual & Powerglide auto.
Just remove the rivets to withdraw the tube & swap it over. The bare steering box & the shaft are the same for all HRs.
Some of the Rares exchange boxes that I've seen in the past didn't have the tube attached.
Can somebody from Rares advise on this point.
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