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#41 Posted : Sunday, 14 October 2012 9:54:28 PM(UTC)
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Here is the calculator for model series codes for FE to EH.

By using the following table, each letter equates to a number:
A = 0
B = 9
C = 8
D = 7
E = 6
F = 5
G = 4
H = 3
J = 2 (The letter I is not used)
K = 1
The code is used to represent the intended year of release. Most are logical:- FE = 56, FC = 58, EK = 61, EJ = 62, EH = 63.

However FJ = 52, but was 1 year late, FB = 59, again a year late.

Even the 50 series ute (50-2106) was released in 1951, not 1950, such are the problems with 'planned' production.

It is not known why GM-H ceased using this code, perhaps it was more to do with the impending release of the Torana, so they were about to produce 2 carlines side by side, making year-based codes a bit pointless.

Byron, this comment opens up a can of worms:-

"I think V2 series II CV6 and CV8 even get special vehicle package coding? Or am I dreaming this?" No your not dreaming this.

Strangely most 'series II' upgrades had an accompanying production option (PO) code. WB series II were XV4 for the DeVille XW9 for the Caprice. The VN mid-model upgrade (it wasn't called a series II) was XX8. VP II was the A9A. The V2 Monaro series II was A9W, while V2 series III was SX6. In most cases GM-H called the series upgrade just that 'an upgrade' or 'an upgrade package', not a special vehicle package, the term PO is probably more appropriate..

When I say can of worms, follow this if you can.

In 1988 we got the Commodore & Calais sedan & wagon range. In 1990 they added the VG ute & the VQ Statesman/Caprice, both VN-based. When they VP was released they included the ute as a VP, but the LWB cars became VQ series II. in late 1992 we got the series II upgrade for all of these cars, making the upgraded LWB cars VQ series II series II !! When the VR was released, all V cars including the LWB cars became VRs.

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#42 Posted : Monday, 15 October 2012 12:19:51 AM(UTC)
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hmm. All very interesting regarding the series year and letter codes. I did not know that.
The WB still makes no sense to me regarding the long wheel base idea. The utes and Statesmans both had the same series code as did the earlier series long wheel base cars. And VQ does not fit this theory either.
As for the Coupe' Utility idea......... they were Utilities which identified that they were not one toners, pick-ups etc. They are not coupe's for sure either, as far as I know Coupe's don't have a tail gate or cary a load in the back.
Yes I was aware Lou Brandt made the first Utility.
I suppose there is a problem regarding the whole Holden idea of making sedans, utes, panel vans, one tonners, luxury sedans, 2 doors, station wagons etc all based on the one series. Most manufactures keep them separate. Toyota for example give their commercial vehicles a separate identity all together.
Its not the Commodore name plate that is the problem for Holden, it is the size of car that is. They need to make a smaller car to compete into the future on world scale. They also need to build a decent commercial range along the land cruiser style.
They could start by naming the first in the series the Holden AA and just go in alphabetical order from there to save pointless debates like this happening in the future.
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#43 Posted : Monday, 15 October 2012 7:16:15 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by wbute
I suppose there is a problem regarding the whole Holden idea of making sedans, utes, panel vans, one tonners, luxury sedans, 2 doors, station wagons etc all based on the one series. Most manufactures keep them separate. Toyota for example give their commercial vehicles a separate identity all together.

No so. Over the years Toyota & others have also had Coupe Utilities based on Crowns, Coronas etc. These days they rely on their Hi-Luxes etc.

Holden also have the Colorado & Rodeo etc. The Commodore ute is really no longer a 'Tradie' it is a 'Lifestyle' vehicle.

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