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g'day all .. new to the forum and have been a long time lover of the Monaro's...hope i've put this post in the right place
...i own two pretty special Monaro's, with the first being a 7/71 GTS350 coupe...amethyst/white interior with ''houndstooth'' inserts and owned by myself since 1979...unrestored and original...except for paint, which was done before i purchased the car...
...the second is an extremely late VZ CV8Z 14 Dec 2005 build date and numerically, i have not seen a later example (.....L544***)...(and by my own admission i'm a numbers and researcher type)....and before everyone starts the ridicule.. the build date for the CV8Z was quoted to me by GMH after a phone call to their PR(idstbc)department not long after i purchased the car from the dealer in May 2006....
...just regarding the speedo story, i'm pretty sure that the GTS350 4 speed (fine spline Muncie)was not produced after about mid/late 1973, with the T/H400 carrying them through to the end of production ??...
...if that's the case, that is a valid reason for not seeing a KPH calibrated speedo in the manual 350 models...
...looking forward to all the banter and argy bargy and engaging in the collective knowledge of these fantastic cars
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Your CV8Z may have been compeleted on 14/12/05, but what is the date on the firewall compliance plate. The one that was auctioned as the last was plated 13/12/05. But have seen lots of 12/12/05.
Mine is an L544*** and have a L545*** in my numbers collection. I too have been researching CV8Zs for some time and have been conversing with others around the country doing the same.
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good evening Warren .. i've been an admirer of your work from a distance for a while now....keep up the good work... ...s'pose i'll have to take the covers off for the first time in about six years and have a look....will the plate have the precise day in December?....and that being the case, when was the L545*** plate dated?...if it's not a rude question....thanks and cheers ...PS .. my numbers research has never involved the Monaro's except for this particular car.....you guys have left me for dead!! LOL Edited by user Thursday, 3 January 2013 10:03:20 AM(UTC)
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I do not have the date on the L545, as I do not always get to see the details on the firewall. The compliance date is the day the engine is fitted to the chassis. Warren Edited by user Thursday, 3 January 2013 7:15:14 PM(UTC)
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hello Warren and all .. yes you were correct Warren on the compliance date, with the plate stating 12-12-2005 and the documentation saying ...final inspection,build date 14-12-2005....at least that one is put to bed LOL... ...having read between the lines on the ''final Monaro built'' there is still a window open for the final ''CV8Z'' having been built.... ...the final Monaro only had the ''Cv8'' badge mounted on the boot, along with distinctive ''Monaro'' (not CV8Z) wheels and apparently ''unique'' body plate/VIN numbering...IDSTBC on this info...although when i spoke to Darryl Mattingley quite a few years ago the numbering he quoted certainly ...to me... was Double Dutch LOL... ...it may appear to be splitting hairs, but i think GMH probably wanted it this way...and was purposely devised to really differentiate the last of the last from the others.....SO it still leaves the last of the ''Zeds'' to be sorted by the knowledgeable types .....cheers Phil ...late edit .. i've just seen elsewhere that GMH decided to keep the second last Monaro....well that's that....but does anyone know the numbers?.... Edited by user Friday, 4 January 2013 4:06:34 AM(UTC)
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The first ones will be the most important I reckon. Good time to collect one whilst they are cheap. A devil manual 2001 plated V2 is what i'd grab! WOuldn't it be great to have the first and last! |
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...hi HK1837 .. my field of research has mainly been to do with the 1948 only production of the first Holdens....which led me to possessing the wreck of the 100th Holden ever produced...ch/no 8-1100-M....
...that's all well and good, but it infact had the 136th body shell welded together, which was then assembled into the 149th body assembly, which was then manufactured into the 100th produced Holden!!....so the numbers game has been a fascinating journey (in amongst numerous side projects regarding build numbers and statistics)...
...i've got quite a few CV8Z numbers for Warren and his earliest noted one rings a bell with me, so i'll have to consult those details i have written down about them...cheers and kind regards...Phil
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The last Monaro is an interesting one, its tagged as a CV8Z but badged as a CV8. And is a cross between the two. ie has some CV8Z features and is missing some CV8Z features.
I was lucky enough to be at the hand over and went right over the car.
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...yes Warren...there is usually always that little twist to the story... i'll post the ch/no's of the ones i collected tomorrow...if that's OK with everyone... but for now i realised after looking at the list there is another very late one with the VIN...L544104...last seen by myself in one of the auction yards in Laverton (Vic) in around 2007/8 ...(Fowles or Pickles)
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Do'nt think that L544104 is a valid Monaro VIN.......
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...hi Marty .. this VIN is the only one i didn't jot down at the point of looking through the windscreen portal...please excuse my bad...it certainly was no later than the number L544104 and was more than likely L544102...as it ended in an even number... the one i own is L544100 and the revelation of this number blew the wind out of my sails a bit... as up to that point i hadn't seen a number higher than my own one...oh well LOL
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Do you have the complete VIN ie 6G1ZK52FO5L544104
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no mmaz30 .. it was on a car transporter..no rego as well,... and in all truth i only ever checked the series of numbers beyond the L..as i was on a mission to find one later than mine...and when i did find this one i reckoned ''well that'll do''!....the rest is history LOL....cheers mate
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Do you have another VZ monaro VIN characters upto L******
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6G1 = Aust build
Z = model VZ
K = luxury level....not sure what monaro is
5 = body style so i assume 7 for 37
2 = Restraints code
F0 = engine code
5 = model year
L = plant...elizabeth
****** = serial
I come up with invalid VIN with the above numbers obviously because its a sedan.
So if you have another VZ monaro with the first 10 characters and i'll put in the L544104
we'll see what we come up with.
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...mmazz30 .. these are all the details of my own car from the contract of sale, tax invoice and registration papers....
eng.number...VFO52150066
VIN....6G1ZX14F35L544100
MAKE..HOLDEN VZ18VX37384
...and for people who are possibly horrified now these details are out there...the cars' provenance is safe... as there are a stack of other details that make any falsifying or forgery a wasted effort.....
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Yeah. People get horrified about the number details being made public. Then at a car show the tags are on show. Anytime the rego label is on show the chassis and engine number are available |
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The security check digit is what is stopping you.
You have engine as F0 it is infact F the 0 is the security check digit.
So go to the site and put in
6G1ZX14F?5L544104
and where the ? mark is it could be 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,X.
There is a calculation for it and I think it would be 9
So if this car is right the ISOVIN would be
6G1ZX14F95L544104
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...just regarding the speedo story, i'm pretty sure that the GTS350 4 speed (fine spline Muncie)was not produced after about mid/late 1973, with the T/H400 carrying them through to the end of production ??...
...if that's the case, that is a valid reason for not seeing a KPH calibrated speedo in the manual 350 models...
I don't know that the speedo assembly would be different between auto & manual trans in any model. Dr Terry |
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hi Dr Terry .. having just checked the MPC, you are right and there is nothing unusual in the part numbers (manual or auto...MPH-KPH) for the type 4 instrument cluster, and nothing special about the driven gear for manual or auto.....except which diff ratio was selected ...quite okay for the majority of the GTS model, but the line i was taking is that possibly no manual 350's ever got to see the KPH calibrated speedo...??.....cheers Edited by user Tuesday, 8 January 2013 5:44:17 AM(UTC)
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Hmm DET your Monaro details are spot on and its a Preston motors Essendon Nth delivered car. But the one we are trying to decifer comes up with VIN not found even if i punch in 0-9 after the F I tried 102 as the last 3 serials and no go either. This is what i get. 6:Oceania G:Australia 1:Holden / Chevrolet Z:VZ Series X:Calais/Calais-V/Monaro/CD/Clubsport/GTS/Senator 1:Coupe (37) 4:Active (Manual) seat belts with driver & passenger inflatable restraint system - front and side F:LS1 - 5.7L V8 (SFI, ALUM, GEN 3) Gas Engine 9:Check Digit 5:2005 L:Elizabeth 544104:SERIAL NUMBER Edited by user Tuesday, 8 January 2013 4:41:42 AM(UTC)
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