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#1 Posted : Monday, 16 December 2013 4:23:30 AM(UTC)
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Ok so Holden going to close, thinking about buying his & her ute's. Imagine If they actioned off the last car on production line. What would you opt/ custom build and for what price? I think 1 million dollars would be obtainable? what would you do????????
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#2 Posted : Monday, 16 December 2013 6:22:07 AM(UTC)
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I don't think it would be worth a cracker.
Holden will still be hear but just not made hear.
Valiant had the last bastard signed in the boot what will the last holden commodore have ?
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#3 Posted : Monday, 16 December 2013 7:15:31 AM(UTC)
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Last Leyland? Nobody cares.
Last Nissan? Same.
Last Mitsubishi 380? Likewise.

I doubt the last Falcon & last Commodore will be commanding massive $$$.

Mind you, there's so many idiots already posting up how their Commodore is going to be worth so much more once Holden closes. Idiots...
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#4 Posted : Monday, 16 December 2013 7:51:36 AM(UTC)
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The Motor Museum here in SA is lobbying for the last one to be donated to them. So I would say that no one is getting it.
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#5 Posted : Monday, 16 December 2013 3:41:52 PM(UTC)
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Which is the last one? The last VIN in the sequence or the last one completed?
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 17 December 2013 1:50:36 AM(UTC)
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Exactly. The next great debate in 20 years time. Which one really is the last one. Who cares.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 17 December 2013 7:42:10 AM(UTC)
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I can't think of any new car that is worth even considering as an 'investment strategy'.
It'd be a waste of time, effort & space where you could instead have a decent old thing to play with.
Get into property with proven performance.
Buy a his'n'hers pair of utes & put them on blocks in the hope that someone will shell out plenty for them in 30 years?
I don't think so.
Buy 'em & thrash 'em.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 17 December 2013 9:04:27 AM(UTC)
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Hi all.
Byron, I strongly believe last one made is it. The VIN sequence is just a number on a list but it would be significant if GM-H actually put the last VIN Sequence on the last car built. I'm sure that could be done.

Crowe. I've had a deep interest (and have been quite active owning and selling)in collectable cars for four decades. A million dollars is simply not attainable in the near future. The people who were cavalier and setting unheard of records for prices have vanished in the perfect storm which was the GFC. I have several popular models of muscle cars and although I consider them rare and collectable I NEVER EVER consider them as real investments. Classic cars have historically and consistently grown in value over the last 50 years but that is the bonus. New cars don't carry even a fraction of the desirability of the cars they evolved from. The last Holden will always have a place and will probably grow in value. like Falcons, Holdens are more popular than any Mitsubishi 380 or Leyland.

...Utility 8 is correct. But at the moment even property is tenuous.

Castellan. I wonder about the future of Holden as a brand. The word is that post Aussie production the next big platform model will be Chinese using the Buick badge. Taking a good look at the VF Commodore, GM have changed (i.e. softened) its look compared to the VE. I reckon this is evidence that GM have had their mind made up that sooner or later they would chop Aussie production and were softening buyers up with this softer look. I had a conversation with a senior staffer at Fishermans Bend shortly after the VE release and was told that there would be one more model after the VE and then large car production was "highly unlikely". Most people have forgotten or don't even know that Chris Gubbey took over from Denny Mooney as General Manager of GM-H in 2007 Gubbey was Vice Pres of GM Shanghai and it is understood he had a hand in the softening up of the VF. He was also keen to see Chinese SHYTE brought into Aust wearing a Holden badge. It is amusing that the media have not said a word about this guy and everyone is blaming Labor or the Libs.....my money is on this bloke (even though the final decision was from Detroit) and the unions. Devereaugh replaced this bloke with instructions to turn things around within 5 years....time's up....decision made. Very sad. The times, they are a changing.
Nick.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 17 December 2013 10:42:43 PM(UTC)
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If that is the case the guy who paid big bucks for the "last" Monaro might be dissapointed!
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 18 December 2013 4:22:17 AM(UTC)
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Wasn't the last Monaro given the tag number (which forms part of a modern VIN) of something like L999999 ??
Surely this could be repeated for the last VF down the line.

Having a special VIN, not a regular VIN, would actually mean something, and could be the decider in the ultimate "value" put on the last vehicle (as seen with the last Monaro).
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 18 December 2013 5:05:15 AM(UTC)
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That says it all. The car is not important. The number would be.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 18 December 2013 5:10:02 AM(UTC)
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The 'last' Monaro was not actually the last monaro. The people I know there tell me there were at least 5 built after that 'last' one.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 18 December 2013 8:28:04 AM(UTC)
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What is a well looked after, (V8 & low k's), early version of the new generation Monaro's worth?
What were they priced at new?
How long until the second hand price is higher than the 'new' price was?

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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 18 December 2013 4:45:20 PM(UTC)
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http://www.tradeuniqueca...cars/holden/monaro/3815

Looking at that and the fact that it is not selling would tell you that the people that bought these things for 'investments' had better bunker down for the long haul. This guy would have paid about that for it brand new, he would be paying insurance and has rego'd it at least once in the last 8 years he has owned it. So all up his investment has cost him over $5k, yet it is worth no more now than it was when he picked it up 8 years ago.
Would have been a whole hell of a lot smarter to put the coin off his mortgage, than to have this thing sitting in the shed.

Early versions are holding their price pretty well compared with the 4 door brothers. 20 - 25k will get you into a mint low K version, but they are still on the way down. If these things do decide to go sky ward, I would not expect it to happen for another 10 - 15 years.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, 19 December 2013 7:17:44 AM(UTC)
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Hi Byron. Yes I fear so. I bought a very low K HSV Signature Coupe' a few years back. They are the last 70 Coupes' Although I did buy it with a vague hope it might keep its value or even possibly appreciate, it is Joanne's daily driver and we a klicking up a few Ks on it. I think anyone over 40 who owns a late model special car must face the fact that they will probably be dead 'n buried by the time their values go up. One of my GTs I bought in 1983 for $3800. I was 25 years old...now 55. 30 years on it is substantially more valuable. So I reckon that if you are 40 and buy one of the last Monaros (or even the last one) you can expect to be 70 by the time it is in the same position as the earlier muscle cars.....if ever. These late model cars represent a completely different lifestyle and have little if any relevance to motor sport.....They simply don't have to build them any more so they can race them...different era.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 19 December 2013 8:32:30 AM(UTC)
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I wonder how low the Commodore sales will drop now. Not many people are going to want to get caught buying a new Commodore now for fear of next to no resale value.
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#17 Posted : Friday, 20 December 2013 4:01:26 PM(UTC)
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Falcon & Territory sales actually increased in the months after Ford announced their 2016 closure.
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#18 Posted : Friday, 20 December 2013 4:33:06 PM(UTC)
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The Falcon was the same ol FG when the sales were down the first couple of months.
Holden still have the VF to keep sales going.
Funny how there was the occasional commercial here and there on the radio or tv for the commodore.
Now they are pushing the crap out of them through the media.
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#19 Posted : Friday, 20 December 2013 5:09:42 PM(UTC)
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Can't see many dealers being real interested in trading in cars that are no longer being built. Who knows though.
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#20 Posted : Friday, 20 December 2013 5:39:43 PM(UTC)
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Might be the other way, dealers would have tried hard to get their hands on Monaros, Crewmans and Tonners after they stoped making them because you can only get one second hand.

WB commercials were high in value for a long time, until the VG came out.

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