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Does anyone know why early Holden FX 48-215 and all standard bodied cars up to EK, all commercial vehicles up to HR, had no outside drivers door key lock mechanism?
I was always led to believe it was in relation to a old law that you had to exit / enter the vehicle kerbside.
Can anyone confirm this or have I been misinformed? |
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I have always believed the same about the law, but have never actually confirmed its origin.
To my knowledge, the door lock barrels were this way on ALL pre-HK Holdens except Premiers & all but the earliest Specials.
The first RH door lock barrels appeared on FJ Specials around June/July 1954, according to service bulletin no. H70-G.
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Late 20s Chevs (Holden bodies) are also the same (and so too many other eras), and the mention of the old law is what I've been told many times by the "wise ones" in the Chev club when the topic has been raised. |
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Yes it is weird.
Leaves me scratching my head as to why specials had the drivers key lock and not the standards.
Only theory I can come up with is the standards were more often then not sales rep, tradesman's, fleet cars and taxi's where the driver would be exiting and entering on public streets more often.
Have also noticed that commercial Holden's if optioned as a special got the drivers key lock.
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Have also noticed that commercial Holden's if optioned as a special got the drivers key lock.
You couldn't "option a commercial as a Special". Some Special features (cig lighter etc.) were available as genuine accessory kits, but things like the RH door lock barrel & Special side stainless mouldings were a common aftermarket fitting. None were ever factory fitted in production. To fit the RH door lock barrel where there was none originally, is a relatively easy job. The slot in the inner door skin where the barrel retainer plate is inserted, is already cut & the internal lock mechanism is the same anyway, so it will accept the barrel's lever for correct operation. Just cut a round hole, file the locating slots & insert the barrel. Job done. Dr Terry P.S. I often scratch my head about the RH lock thing too, it's not exactly a 'luxury' feature is it ? |
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Should of said it this way "commercials could be specially ordered with drivers key lock."
There's a couple in the Classic and Historic Auto Club who have a one owner HR ute that he ordered with the lock amongst other things including the X2 option. |
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My point was about the use of the word 'option'.
The X2 was a proper 'option'. In other words, a factory-fitted alternative or addition to an otherwise standard car. A list of factory 'options' is issued to the dealer network & each one has a PO number. These numbers are then printed on the production broadcast sheet to be fitted on the production line. To my knowledge the RH door lock barrel is not one of them.
The door lock would have been fitted by the dealership in his own service dept. or maybe even subcontracted to a panel shop nearby. This could have been done as part of the original purchase agreement before delivery.
In my book there is a vast difference between a factory-fitted 'option', a dealer-fitted genuine accessory (or spare part), a dealer-fitted non-genuine accessory & an aftermarket item. The line between them is often blurred, especially if it has been fitted by the selling dealer before sale.
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I was told that the locks were originally this way because, in the old days, when men were gentlemen, they would want to open the passenger door for their girl / passenger first (apparently this was a polite thing to do).
These days, it is obviously ridiculous to think that other people should come before yourself. Hell, you are driving the car for them for crying out loud. Wives, girlfriends and passengers should just be thankful you aren't making them walk!
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Originally posted by albyht
I was told that the locks were originally this way because, in the old days, when men were gentlemen, they would want to open the passenger door for their girl / passenger first (apparently this was a polite thing to do).
These days, it is obviously ridiculous to think that other people should come before yourself. Hell, you are driving the car for them for crying out loud. Wives, girlfriends and passengers should just be thankful you aren't making them walk!
Alby
here here alby i think your 100 % what ever happened to old fashioned love .that's why there is no respect for one another its all about them selves
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I remember when i was a kid i went with me dad to Paddisons in Forbes in march 1965(yes 1965)to buy a new ute. On the floor was a new 179 manual ute in blue, 1022 pounds (the 149 was 1000 pounds even). He took the 179, god it was a goer. Every time he went to open the drivers door he used to curse and throw the keys over the roof to mum and say "open the fxxxcken door will ya".The roof had scratches across it from the keys. Eventually the novelty wore off it and he never locked it. Good times
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This topic has always puzzled me. If it related to a law that stated the driver had to enter and exit the vehicle from the passenger side, wouldn't it apply to all models, not just standards? I would also be interested to know whether other makes from the same era such as early Falcons and Valiants had the same system for their base models.
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