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#1 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 5:31:47 AM(UTC)
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Has anyone tried to put in a BW 10000 Black widow alarm. I am currently trying to fit one to a corvette but the instructions are atrocious. I have worked out some of the wiring but the problems are as follows.

1. There are 4 wires coming from the siren. All are unlabelled. What goes where? Obviously one is to the alarm module. Is it red? Or does that go straight to +12v? Black to ground. What about the other 2?

2.. Dome (-) Where is this connected. The instructions state what it does but where is it connected?

3. Starter (-) To what is this connected?

4. Prewarn (-) Is states to connect it to the 2 stage sensor prewarn. What the hell is that?

5. Power door locks. I have located the wires that have 12 volts when locked or unlocked. That accounts for 2. There are 6 wires for the doors. Where do the other 4 go. This vehicle does not have relays for the locks. Then what wires go to what?

The starter (-) is not the one for the cutout. They are separate.
There is already a door switch wire connected. Why do you need 2?

Hope someone out there can help me. I have sent an e-mail to the company but they have not had the decency to reply. It is obviously a problem with the instructions as I have read numerous complaints on other forums.

cheers...bluHJ

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#2 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 6:11:04 AM(UTC)
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Hmm, a tricky one.

The siren... I'd say one is +12v. One is Gnd. Another would be the trigger from the alarm module to say "Make a loud noise now!". The other, I'm not sure. What colours are they all? Will think about it. Maybe a bonnet switch?
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#3 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 6:13:51 AM(UTC)
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Alarm module: red=battery, black=earth, white=alarm module; other ? dont know.
Dome: door switch
Starter: would be solenoid throwout...not the BIG mother cable.
Also some alarms use the brake pedal in line with the alarm.

SH*t mate..I'd take it back
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#4 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 1:39:28 PM(UTC)
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Jason,

Thanks for the thoughts. I had the same thoughts about the siren - but which wire. I don't want to blow anything up. It's not a bonnet switch. There's a seperate one for that.

There is already a door switch connected. I thought the
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#5 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 6:25:23 PM(UTC)
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No worries mate, sorry it's not more helpful.

If it's any consolation, the instructions on the Mongoose alarm I recently bought (and am still fitting - keep getting sidetracked) have a few key points omitted. However, the local Mongoose people were EX
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#6 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 6:45:04 PM(UTC)
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Blu - the 4th wire on the siren could be the antenna lead. Does it look like it's not meant to be stripped, or are the other three stripped and this one not? It'll be black...

(Found an installation manual for an earlier model, am looking at that.)
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#7 Posted : Friday, 7 October 2005 6:46:26 PM(UTC)
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Could also be longer than the other three.

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#8 Posted : Saturday, 8 October 2005 12:14:11 AM(UTC)
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There is an antenna lead hanging out of the alarm module so it's not that.

You were lucky with the Mongoose people. I still haven't heard from Black Widow. I went to the store where he bought it and all they said was go to installdr.com.
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Blu,

The door solenoids come in two varieties, slave and master, the slave just have the 2 wires, brown and white for actuation, the master have 6, 2 for actuation as per the slave and 3 for control to tell the relay to unlock/lock the slaves, masters

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 8 October 2005 6:58:48 AM(UTC)
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Shnad

Thanks for the info. Very helpful. Will give it a try on Sunday and let you know how I go. I think I've worked out most of it. What I can't work out, will go to the retailer and get them to do,

Thanks again...bluHJ
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#11 Posted : Monday, 10 October 2005 7:44:16 AM(UTC)
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Jason

Got it working finally after about 4 hours today. Even took a TV down the garage to watch Bathurst.

The 4 wires on the siren are red=live all the time, black=ground, blue=ignition+12v and the grey goes to the alarm module. Haven't worked o
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#12 Posted : Monday, 10 October 2005 4:33:44 PM(UTC)
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Good to hear, mate - might even get me motivated to finish mine off... :-)

Cheers,
Jason.

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#13 Posted : Monday, 10 October 2005 4:42:28 PM(UTC)
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I think the starter - is only hooked up to the starter to trigger the alarm (if it already hasn't been) if someone applies 12V+ to the starter solenoid to try & bypass the immobiliser.

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#14 Posted : Monday, 10 October 2005 4:50:10 PM(UTC)
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Good thinking commodorenut. I didn't think of that. At least the alarm is working as it should without it and the prewarn whatever that is. Still got to do the C/L but that's next weekend.

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#15 Posted : Monday, 10 October 2005 5:10:16 PM(UTC)
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If you haven't already sorted the interior light one (different to the door trigger) then yes it is the interior light delay (and instant "light on" when you disarm the alarm).

I fitted one similar to this into a VK a few months ago, and it was a mongr

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, 11 October 2005 4:47:44 AM(UTC)
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commodorenut.

He's not worried about the interior illumination coming on when it's disarmed, so that's one less thing to worry about.

The central locking system is factory and the same type as in my J. I think they call it a negative system or som
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