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#1 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2005 7:40:47 AM(UTC)
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G'day guys,

I have seen a Black motor Electronic dizzy on Ebay, just wondering if this would suit the Red 186 providing I had the Elec coil??? Might make a bid, providing there are no factors I don't know about. I remember my Mech saying a while ago that fitting a Elec dizzy would be more benificial on the donk than the standard type. He was refering to a VH Comm 202 blue Dizzy though. Any Ideas????

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#2 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2005 8:02:01 AM(UTC)
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Be careful, the black motor had a regular HEI dizzy on the EFI 6 cyl motor, but the carby versions had an odd sensor on the flywheel setup, called Electronic Spark Timing (EST) and the dizzy did nothing but direct the spark. If the one you're looking at
202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
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#3 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2005 8:54:17 AM(UTC)
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Thanks peter,

I just found out it's off a VK Black, and by the picture it does have the vacume advance and modual off to the side. Sounds ok thus far..

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#4 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2005 10:04:52 PM(UTC)
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Whats the max$$$ one should pay for the second hand Black dizzy on ebay???

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#5 Posted : Saturday, 17 December 2005 10:40:12 PM(UTC)
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i think they generally sell for about 150 with cap, leads and coil
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#6 Posted : Sunday, 18 December 2005 6:03:29 AM(UTC)
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I watched them for a while on ebay, then bid on one and bought it. They were going from between $60 and $100 over a period of a few weeks, for a blue motor dizzy, with coil, cap, and leads. Think I eventually paid around $80.

Take your time and get o
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#7 Posted : Sunday, 18 December 2005 6:33:52 AM(UTC)
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cheers jason, just won the Item for $72 buckeroos. Happy now..

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#8 Posted : Sunday, 18 December 2005 9:50:00 AM(UTC)
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Cool mate. Still gotta fit mine to the HQ, but the Torana has been running one for years.

Remember to bypass the pink resistor wire coming from the ignition key with a normal wire, so you get 12 volts at the coil. Experiment with opening your spark p
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#9 Posted : Sunday, 18 December 2005 10:08:30 AM(UTC)
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Cheers jason, i'll take all that info on board for when I fit it. And yes I think it was a lucky buy, right down to the second, got him..

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#10 Posted : Friday, 6 January 2006 5:35:44 AM(UTC)
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I thought I might ask another quick Question, Does anybody know which spark plugs to use with this black dizzy and a 161 head?? I know that the standard have 33" gap, is there now a difference in gap dew to larger spark etc...Do I have to buy new ones or
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#11 Posted : Friday, 6 January 2006 8:43:09 AM(UTC)
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The later plugs won't fit the older head,the plug gap for elctronic ignition is 1.5mm so youll have to try and get this gap on your older style plugs,also make sure you have 12volts at coil you will need to fit a relay as voltage at original coil is only
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#12 Posted : Friday, 6 January 2006 10:02:54 AM(UTC)
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You don't HAVE to fit a relay. Personally I don't like relays always something else to go wrong and make thingd more complicated. Just fit a good thick wire, thicker than the other stuff, and make sure the terminals are clean and soldered.
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#13 Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2006 6:20:11 AM(UTC)
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Thanks John,

So when you say a thicker wire, is this the one from the starter??? or the ignition??? If I do this will I get the full 12V at the coil??

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#14 Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2006 7:05:34 AM(UTC)
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Assume John's talking about the ignition wire. Think it's yellow at the positive terminal of the coil on most holdens, and at some stage near the firewall, splits into a pink wire and another wire, both go up to the key. It's the pink wire that causes t
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#15 Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:31:01 AM(UTC)
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Jasons right but in addition it would not hurt to run a thicker wire to the starter solenoid. The originals are getting a bit old now and often hard starting can be overcome by replacing this wire. I am talking about the thinner wire not the battery wires
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#16 Posted : Sunday, 8 January 2006 11:35:54 AM(UTC)
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Don't get me wrong it's not that I NEVER use relays, for instance if fitting driving lights or stronger headlights, or even standard headlights, the current can cause overheating of the dipper switch if the driving lights are (correctly) wired through the
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