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#1 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 6:11:23 AM(UTC)
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Or How to Knock About 50c a Litre Off the Price Of Fuel

First and foremost this debate should be centred on Diesel NOT Unleaded. Why? You may ask. Just look at the increase in supermarket prices for your answer. While it may cost you $5 or $10 extra to fill your tank everything that is transported (which is everything) rises as Diesel rises. My average basket at the supermarket per week has increased on average $30 and that’s for one person. Australia’s whole economy is tied to Diesel and therefore it should be afforded the same priority and status as water i.e. an essential commodity.
I own a small transport company and I have had to significantly raise my prices twice in the past year just to maintain profit margins. This cost you money too.
I am compelled to write this letter because I am sick of all the namby-pamby *****footing around everyone seems to be doing about the current fuel debate. I have spent considerable time researching this area because it affects my income. Contained herein is the WHOLE truth about the debate, the WHOLE big picture, if you will. NO-ONE till now has had the testicular fortitude to stick their necks out and present the WHOLE argument about just how much we are being RIPPED OFF. If you want the truth and the WHOLE truth read on.
DON’T – Listen to spin doctors from the oil companies. THEY HAVE A VESTED INTREST TO KEEP FUEL PRICES HIGH.
DON’T – Listen to the government – state or federal. THEY HAVE A VESTED INTREST TO KEEP FUEL PRICES HIGH.
DON’T – pay too much attention to news or current affairs programs. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDAS.
So here we go, how to make fuel cheaper!
FIRSTLY – DISBAND FUEL PARITY
Parity, for those that don’t know, is government sanctioned price fixing (simple as that). Parity allows fuel companies to sell their products for the highest current price they find in the Asia Pacific region. It completely disregards supply and demand economics and eliminates any need for competition amongst themselves.
Don’t believe me? Just look at the price of Diesel. If you remember growing up when Diesel was always 10-15c p/l cheaper than Petrol you might understand this more.
How can a product that costs far less to produce (partially a by-product of producing Unleaded as well) and a product that Australia uses more of than any other fuel be MORE EXPENSIVE than Unleaded? Simple, ring Singapore, where they don’t use a lot of Diesel and import all their fuel, find out how much it’s selling for there and charge the same here – sound fair? NOT!
Any other industry who tried this one would be hauled of to the High Court quick smart and prosecuted for price fixing! Oh but hang on, our government ALLOWS them to do this
NUMBER TWO – BARRELL PRICE
That price the news loves to show us each night is the PREMIUM GRADE crude oil price. Australian oil companies DO NOT buy PREMIUM GRADE crude oil! In fact Australia produces around 70% of its own oil and imports about 30%. The cost of production per litre produced here is cheaper than that of imported fuel, but in no way is this factored into the pump price, because they don’t need to (SEE PARITY ABOVE) we pay a pump price based on PREMIUM GRADE crude oil price the same as if we imported all of it, say somewhere like Singapore! Starting to get the picture?
NUMBER THREE – LEVIES
Everyone knows that both State and Federal Governments take a large slice of the cost of a litre of fuel. This equates in total to about 46% of the price per litre. This money is used for infrastructure, road trauma etc. etc. so fair enough right? WRONG!
What is wrong is that it is a PERCENATGE! Look at this. If a litre of fuel costs $1.00 then the Government gets 46c p/l, right? A week later fuel rises to $1.10 p/l; the Government gets 50.6c p/l, bingo! Something tells me that in one week, their costs, IN NO WAY have gone up 9%!
As I stated previously – THE GOVERNMENT HAS A VESTED INTREST TO KEEP FUEL PRICES HIGH. THEY MAKE LOTS MORE FREE MONEY! Why else do they allow fuel companies to maintain PARITY?
If they changed the tax (sorry, levy) to a flat rate tied to the GDP then the fuel price would drop drastically and immediately!
NUMBER FOUR – GST - THE DOUBLE DIPP
Now this one is outright “THIEVERY” and also applies to cigarettes and alcohol.
GST = Goods and Services Tax, correct?
46% or 46c in every dollar in the price of a litre of fuel is TAX (sorry; again, LEVY).
What part of LEVY is a good or a service? YOU CANNOT TAX, TAX RIGHT? WRONG!
You do the math.
Say fuel costs $1.00 p/l – the GST component = 9c
But hang on a minute 46% or 46c of this is TAX!
i.e., 4.14c of the GST is ILLEGALLY CHARGED ON THE TAX COMPONENT! Not much you say?
FOR EVERY LITRE SOLD IN AUSTRALIA EVERY DAY!
That equates to millions of free dollars for the Government! I’ll say it one more time - THE GOVERNMENT HAS A VESTED INTREST TO KEEP FUEL PRICES HIGH. THEY MAKE LOTS MORE FREE MONEY!
The GST on fuel should be 5.4% not 10%. At $1.75 p/l this would drop the current price by around 8c p/l.
Feeling a little annoyed? You should be!
Even without disbanding parity and introducing real competition among fuel companies, you should be paying about 40c less per litre!
My name is Graeme Strempel, ([email protected]) and I run a small transport business, I happily welcome anyone, Government and fuel companies included to prove me wrong.
If you feel strongly about this issue then pass this missive on to everyone in your address book. Eventually someone might take notice.


thought might be interesting for you all, so we all ahve a betterer idea of why?
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#2 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 8:28:10 AM(UTC)
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Gday Graeme.
What a great letter. I am glad someone has spelt it out to us. I will send it to all the people I know. May I suggest you send it to every news paper in Aus and maybe the TV stations. They will take it up as this letter gets distributed via

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#3 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 8:28:10 AM(UTC)
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G'day Graeme.
What a great letter. I am glad someone has spelt it out to us. I will send it to all the people I know. May I suggest you send it to every news paper in Aus and maybe the TV stations. They will take it up as this letter gets distributed via

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#4 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 10:27:43 AM(UTC)
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hey wildhotz,
that is an email i got,,he is happy to have his email used.
send it on, to as many people as you can, cause i think we are all fed up with being ripped off!! i mean families are getting thrown out of their homes onto the street, because o
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#5 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 10:53:57 AM(UTC)
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GST is pyramid taxing on many items including new houses, cars, alcohol, fuel, etc.

Pyramid schemes are supposedly ILLEGAL in Australia.
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#6 Posted : Friday, 27 June 2008 10:41:45 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Absinth
GST is pyramid taxing on many items including new houses, cars, alcohol, fuel, etc.

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#7 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 12:48:40 AM(UTC)
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But they were "levies" and "duties" not taxes. Therefore NSW didn't abolish them because they weren't taxes. Why do they get away with it? Because NSW voters continued to return Labor to power in NSW. Why? Because the opposition cannot organise themselves
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 12:48:40 AM(UTC)
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But they were "levies" and "duties" not taxes. Therefore NSW didnt abolish them because they werent taxes. Why do they get away with it? Because NSW voters continued to return Labor to power in NSW. Why? Because the opposition cannot organise themselves w
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 7:51:08 AM(UTC)
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i cannot help jumping in this topic again!
as soon as you mentioned labour!! i think the labour governments are absolutely pathetic!! and the worst is nsw! i am from vic, and moved over border, and i fail to see the diff in nsw, to what is happening in

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 8:02:57 AM(UTC)
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OK. first, parity pricing was introduced to encourage exploration in Austrlai when barrel price was around $5 or $6 barrel.
Do we need parity pricing now? I dont think so the world price is enough encouragement but as bear says the govern ments and oil
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#11 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 8:02:57 AM(UTC)
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OK. first, parity pricing was introduced to encourage exploration in Austrlai when barrel price was around $5 or $6 barrel.
Do we need parity pricing now? I don't think so the world price is enough encouragement but as bear says the govern ments and oi
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#12 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 9:05:23 AM(UTC)
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Maybe basket. if possession is 9/10th of the law. so if a country or your self are in debit, you are then up the creek bro. maybe some one has a agenda. you don't need to have a war, to win a battle?
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Maybe basket. if possession is 9/10th of the law. so if a country or your self are in debit, you are then up the creek bro. maybe some one has a agenda. you dont need to have a war, to win a battle?
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#14 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 9:21:53 AM(UTC)
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well written john perth,
azal.. i am not sure of the point you were making?
debt is not my prob, living expenses is,, this is happening to many worldwide! cost of food has risen so people cannot eat!
when interest rates, transport costs, [in aus, ne
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#15 Posted : Saturday, 28 June 2008 9:55:00 AM(UTC)
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We should also have a better railway system to move goods & people between cities and towns (rail uses much less fuel than trucks per Kg of load).

Truck drivers would still all be employed moving the freight between the rail depots and their destinati

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#16 Posted : Sunday, 29 June 2008 9:57:23 PM(UTC)
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I don't care if Fuel gets to $3 litre , It won't keep me off the road.

Extra 100 bucks a week who cares.

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#17 Posted : Sunday, 29 June 2008 9:57:23 PM(UTC)
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I dont care if Fuel gets to $3 litre , It wont keep me off the road.

Extra 100 bucks a week who cares.

Rusty
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Thought you guys might enjoy an email I just received, its in a similar vain to the original post on here, just written slightly less complexly...

A lot of folks cant understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in Australia. Well, theres a ver
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Thought you guys might enjoy an email I just received, its in a similar vain to the original post on here, just written slightly less complexly...

A lot of folks can't understand how we came to have an oil shortage here in Australia. Well, there's a v
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Hehehe, pretty much sums it up doesnt it. If you were going to give Australia an enema, Canberra is where youd shove the hose.......
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