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#1 Posted : Thursday, 6 January 2005 10:22:44 AM(UTC)
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Just wondering about I.D from Adelaide built sandmans. AS i have 2 vans.one im using for spares and one is nice. 1 I.D. is HZ8W N 70 and the other is HZ8W M 70.Both have light switches in the doors and full hood linings. The M 70 is a factory 308 4sp and the spare N 70 is a 6cyl. I have also seen a Van with the same plate HZ8W M 70 with all the looks of a Sandman but it didn't have the full hood lining, Did the Belmont have light switches in the door frames like the Sandmans? Any help would be great
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 6 January 2005 10:19:02 PM(UTC)
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You may have seen already on this forum that I am currently researching Sandman IDing. In the HZ series the Sandman option was only available on the base model (Belmont) ie the 8WM model, and you could not get a 6cyl. The 8WN is only a Kingswood, and havi
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#3 Posted : Friday, 7 January 2005 3:30:37 AM(UTC)
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Hi Guys.


Ditto to what Byron has said,


ID for Sandman is a difficult art.


Most of what Byron mentions, are the only IDs apart from the XX7/XU3 after the body number, on Brisbane cars only.


I,ve identified 2 HJ Kingswood Sandman ute

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#4 Posted : Friday, 7 January 2005 4:03:33 AM(UTC)
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I've found 1 x HJ Kingswood Sandman ute (XX7 Brisbane), and 1 x suspected HJ Kingswood Sandman ute (XU3 Melbourne). I have a set of plates off a HX Kingswood van that I pulled off a 7 year old, 1 owner wreck in the early 80's. Unfortunately it's not a Bri
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#5 Posted : Friday, 7 January 2005 9:59:53 AM(UTC)
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G'day Byron and Dr T,


What does this mean for the HJ base model van sitting beside my house that has the courtesy switches installed? Only had a short headlining, but it wasn't the original one. I had planned to use this to replace the rusted out bo

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#6 Posted : Friday, 7 January 2005 8:09:10 PM(UTC)
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Does the HJ still have the ID plates? If so send me the data and I'll peruse them. Have a look at the top rear inside the HJ where a full length hoodlining would finish. If it has an extra piece of metal spot welded there that the HX doesn't (unless the H
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#7 Posted : Friday, 7 January 2005 9:24:34 PM(UTC)
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I'll send you the id's for this one also, but I know that the interior of the HJ was completely redone. There maybe from memory some signs of spotwelds removed as the side mounting holes were bogged up.


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#8 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 2:57:32 AM(UTC)
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Do you know from your research if a belmont van or ute could be optioned with bucket seats? I have been led to belive that they could not. If this is true then a belmont VIN on a van or ute with a seating capacity of 2 may also be an indication of a Sandm
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 4:06:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi Chris.


Yes, you could option bucket seats in any model ute or van.


So, unfortunately the bucket seat thing is not a good Sandman identifier.


The GVM & tyre placards are the ones to watch.


Another good one if your trying to p

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 6:18:48 AM(UTC)
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Hey Dr T,


I have a brochure for the HX which states a Standard 3300cc engine with 4 speed manual was available.


Always thought it was the HZ that was only availble in V8 trim.


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#11 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 7:54:52 AM(UTC)
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Only the HZ Sandman is a V8 as standard.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 9:40:50 AM(UTC)
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I belive that belmont vans have no door arm rests as Sandmans do? And the trim has horizontal lines and belmonts have vertical?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 5:49:59 PM(UTC)
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Hi Byron.


Yes, you are correct, my mistake, HZ V8 only & HX do not have 173/2850.


Somebody the door trim & armrest thing. To my knowledge all Sandmans are trimmed the same as Kingswoods. All non-Sandman Belmonts have vertical door trim

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#14 Posted : Saturday, 8 January 2005 9:36:19 PM(UTC)
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HZ Sandmans have 2 courtesy lights under the dash to light up your feet, And there should be a brown tacho wire in the three plug harness in the engin bay next to the main engin harness plug.
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HZ Sandmans have 2 courtesy lights under the dash to light up your feet, And there should be a brown tacho wire in the three plug harness in the engin bay next to the main engin harness plug.
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#16 Posted : Monday, 10 January 2005 5:14:41 AM(UTC)
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Hi Byron.


Can you e-mail me regarding response to your letter in AMC.


bebco1(at)optusnet(dot)com(dot)au


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#17 Posted : Monday, 10 January 2005 6:06:30 PM(UTC)
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AllHZs have the brown tacho wire, as this could be fitted as an option it was cheaper to fit to all harnesses.


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