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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:51:58 PM(UTC)
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Why do all the motoring writers drool over European cars?
European shape, comfort, design etc, when for practical purposes most of them are crap in Australian conditions.
The paint fades and cracks, the bodies fall apart, the wiring disintegrates, and theres so much glass you can get sunstroke driving to the beach.
Fiat, Renault, Skoda, Alfa, Peugot, VW, BMW, Audi, Volvo, they are all the same, they go fast for a while then die of one cause or another.
Parts are made of unobtanium and priced accordingly, when you can get them, and you grow a long white beard (even the ladies) waiting for service and a longer one saving the shekels to pay for servicing.
They have been introduced so many times to the Australian markets last for a few years and then get withdrawn because Aussie buyers are not the suckers they thought we were, and then a few years later Fiat or Renault or whatever return to the Aussie market and make like they are doing us yokels a big favour by allowing us to buy their last year's leftovers.
look for a ****load of them coming over in the near future when the worldwide recession sets in, there are tens of thousands of cars sitting on airports around Europe looking for a home. Fortunately they are mostly left hand drive so we wont see most of them.
Yes Australia has turned out some crap cars but how many 20 year old Alfas, BMWs, Mercs, or fiats do you see?
Even the Japs turn out some more robust cars.
My yearly rant.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 5:40:40 PM(UTC)
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John... ask yourself this?
How many VL Commodores or EA Falcons do you see on the road today? And how many of them dont have cracked and sun eaten interiors, with virtually no paint left on them?

Yes.. I have a stable of oldholdens for the weekend...
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 7:49:42 PM(UTC)
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The paint system changed with the VS , yes there are some neglected examples around but the paint fairs better than earlier model commodores. My VT and VS statesman still have great paint jobs .
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 9:57:52 PM(UTC)
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Some of these cars are not even European built (usually South African) but we still get to pay a Euro premium price tag for them.

Dont get me started on those poxy manufacturers that are too cheap to fit a RHD steering column to them with the indica

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:19:43 PM(UTC)
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One of my colleagues has just sold her 1992 BMW 318i for $5,300 and another colleague who has owned nothing but Euro cars (mainly old Pugs) was saying how cheap that was for such a nice car. I responded that you would get nowhere near that much for a 1992

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:14:56 PM(UTC)
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I am so over Euro cars or anything past VL era, including Commos. Too many screws, electrical issues. If it take more than 4 screws to get to a bulb, forget it !
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:26:50 PM(UTC)
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right on trublu
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 4:46:04 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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I am so over Euro cars or anything past VL era, including Commos. Too many screws, electr
marge pass me my gun
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#9 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 5:23:08 AM(UTC)
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Have you guys looked closely at the construction techniques of modern european cars? For example, 7series BMWs are in some areas bonded together, including apparently, most of the front subframe and sheet metal (plastic, haha). Have even a slight prang an

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"Silly modern cars"
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#10 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 6:27:12 AM(UTC)
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One of the young guys at work has a VW Golf thats around 5 years old.

The drivers power window failed, and it was jammed down.

Succeeded in removing the door trim, only to find that VW, in their wisdom, use a pressed metal inner door skin, bolted to
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#11 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 6:40:37 AM(UTC)
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I doubt anyone would complain if a lambo or ferrari was dumped in their driveway, along with plenty of other "Euro-Trash". Horses for courses, theres good n bad in all makes
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#12 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 7:29:27 AM(UTC)
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My brothers 1993 EB Falcons head gasket blew (as they do) ~$100 in parts (VRS set and head bolts)and an easy weekend job to fix.

He has bought a 1992 BMW 325 the head gasket blew (as they do) $400 for a VRS set and so far he has taken over a week to

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#13 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 7:40:14 AM(UTC)
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So if you see a Euro advertised with minor repair needed for rego you now know what your getting yourself into.

Aussie built cars have cheap parts because they dont change much over a body series eg Aussie V8 used from late 60s to late 90s. Falcon 250

You only have to be in front at the end of the race.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 7:40:55 AM(UTC)
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so far he has taken over a week to do the job.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 7:58:55 AM(UTC)
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holden and ford get on my nerve, remeber the falcon ad i think it had a swedish flag in it? and the euro pack, what are they trying to be a volvo?????? and the ve i like the shape i think there is a bmw all most like it, then holden engineers said there t
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 22 January 2009 7:30:13 PM(UTC)
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so far he has taken over a week to do the job.


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#17 Posted : Friday, 23 January 2009 7:01:16 AM(UTC)
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Not everyone lives in the city and there are a lot off corrugated and bad roads in Australia and imported cars arent tested on corrugation or designed for it.
Only Australia and Africa have corrugated roads.
And europe does not have the dust we have her
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#18 Posted : Friday, 23 January 2009 7:56:25 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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I doubt anyone would complain if a lambo or ferrari was dumped in their driveway, along
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#19 Posted : Saturday, 24 January 2009 6:51:46 AM(UTC)
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I am so over Euro cars or anything past VL era, including Commos. Too many screws, electr
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