i reckon you got too much time on ya hands bloke, haha, come have a gelati, and now even a kebab with us bloke..voula is waiting, making the lamingtons with her dandruff, come on quick, before they all go

[quote]Originally posted by HK1837
I totally agree. Email me and ill send you some photos how to pick if its an original 307/308/350A body

Email sent

Cheers

Very well put. Right now there are bargains to be had in all parts of life. Ive been buying shares in blue chip companies as I doubt ill ever get another chance in my lifetime to buy shares like they are right now. Same applies to "blue chip" cars. A HK or HT 1837 in condition 1 for $125k is probably as good an investment as any, just right now only those with serious money can afford them hence why the good stuff still sells for good money but the "hangers on" lesser models that the (for want of a better expression and no malice intended to anyone) wannabees buy have dropped off principally because they either cant afford it or they are tightening their belts. It also makes the lesser cars pretty good value right now, like HQ-HZ 4 door GTS.

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?

Hi
I am the owner of the Picardy Red Bathurst HK Alan referred to.

Its a shame that anonymous posters get personal with other posters who, in the spirit of the forum put posts up to create interest and discussion. Anonymous posters cannot be considered credible. If you have something important to say or wish to be strongly critical then identify yourself otherwise you are just words on a page.I dont know if HT350 is shifty with his story but if hes got a cheap Sebring HT350 then good luck to him.... I hope he enjoys the build, it ends up in pristine condition and he enjoys it! Good luck to you.

As far as prices go, firstly regarding my car. I will not be specific about the price other than to say I I spent a year negotiating with Steve, the previous owner who has become a good friend.It was a close to record price but I am happy with the car and am in no hurry to sell it.

In my humble opinion I think that values are not spectacular at the moment. I have several other top shelf cars. I am not particularly concerned and am not trying to sell any top end cars at the moment. I am sure many owners of top end cars are in a similar position which is why we have not seen hundreds of them dumped into the market. It is worth note that there are very few top shelf Bathurst Monaros/Phase 3s/A9xs/etc going through the auctions at the moment. I can confirm that good xygt sold privately a few weeks ago for $160,000 and other cars are still changing hands privately at good prices. I am also aware that a highly collectable car ( I am sorry I cannot tell you what it is ) is in the final stages of negotiation and will likely change hands for around $250k. I agree that top shelf cars will always hold their value. The ex-owner of the record breaking Sebring HT350 is a mate of mine and many of you also know him. That is a fine car and should fare well in this financial storm. Good luck to the new owner. I hope you enjoy your car.
High prices are great when you are selling, lousy when you are buying........but its always nice to hear about the other bloke who got a heap for the same model that is in your garage....

Like it or not strong values are ALWAYS going to be an important part of our fantastic hobby. Nobody wants to give their car away at a bargain price after spending valuable time and money improving it. Part of the enjoyment of owning collectibles is being able to value add, sell for a profit and then be able to do it again.... That is a great experience....

A good friend who has one of the more significant collections in Oz keeps saying that they stopped making these cars decades ago. The 60s/70s are seen as a GOLDEN era. Not just for muscle cars but culturally/ socially and there are more people who desire these cars than there are available so they should always have good value.

If you think that there is less interest in these cars then get yourself to the next Musclecar Masters. There are huge crowds. You will notice that not just old farts go. There is a heap of interest from young people too.

The styling, user friendliness and performance of cars from this era will help sure up their value into the future.

Musclecars are a little different to Wesfarmers shares and should never be compared. As investments go you should only speculatively invest what you can afford to lose. I do hope Musclecars hold their value, not for me but for the wellbeing of the hobby. Im an optimist.

Im off to the shed.....
Cheers
Nick Moran. NSW.

Edited by user Thursday, 30 April 2009 7:26:03 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Silverfox mentions the 60s-70s as the golden era of muscle cars and socially as well. For thoseof you who have not reae it check out teh book "Golden Miles" by Clinton Walker - a great insight into the muscle car and the social landscape of the 60s and 70s.

As shifty350 has said we will all know what a top end HT350 is worth after the Sunday Auction at Bonhams and Goodman.
I know the reserve is $180,000.

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Originally posted by Warwick Yellow
As shifty350 has said we will all know what a top end HT350 is worth after the Sunday Auction at Bonhams and Goodman.
I know the reserve is $180,000.

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All,

The auction has been run but a few terms need clarification. The reserve was not $180,000. The Guiding Range was $180,000-$220,000 which means that this is the region the auctioneers suggest the bidding commences. The reserve was higher.

The car didnt sell. There may be a number of factors contributing to this.

has anyone taken into consideration that probably the most telling factor in this, is that these cars have been overpriced, and have now come back to a more realistic value.

a good friend of mine that runs a very successful business out of sydney involving muscle cars,was approached by the auctioneers to give them an indication of what he thought the true value of the car was. his answer was $100k, tops. they didnt like it, but that was his opinion.

also, contrary to bens post on a previous thread that has now been locked(any idea why?)the car was put on the market with no opening bid, and did not raise a hand at all, it did not start with a figure at all.
the auctioneer did not mention bidding should atart at the above mentioned figures.

either way, it doesnt really matter, it didnt sell for what they wanted, unless its your car, why should we worry???

bring on the next one i reckon.....see what that makes

Edited by user Thursday, 7 May 2009 9:44:32 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

yes ben, you are right, i see it with the falcons that i folow as well, they have been way, way overpriced, and its sad, because common people(like me) cant enjoy them anymore, the fun has been taken out of our hobby in some ways..

interesting about your info, 2 of my close friends attended the auction while attending the drag racing, and told me different, so how knows then?????

we wreck 81837s only, shifty350, hqgts.

I agree.

Though i dont think we have seen anything come up that has to be sold.So it doesnt look prices have quite come down as much as they probably will.

In the current market what do you think the car is worth ?