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#1 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 5:16:43 AM(UTC)
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Ive noticed over the last couple of years that HK 327 & HT 350 Monaro prices have been about the same as XY GT prices ( excepting HO of course).
Now XY GT prices are way down and you can buy as many as you want but Bathurst Monaro prices aren't down. Instead they seem to be more commonly withdrawn from the market or stlll at near the peak prices although they dont sell at this level (like Darrens Yellow HK).
Does this mean that fundamentally Bathurst Monaro values are stronger than Falcon GT ?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 5:48:54 AM(UTC)
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It is a historical fact that long established manufacturers command a premium for their antiques

As time progresses intrinsic value competes with desirability.

FoMoCo has very good history, consumer faith, and marqueatability, however coupe muscleca
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 6:19:28 AM(UTC)
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HK 1837 and HT 1837M are the premium performance series production Holden cars (plus the LC and LJ XU-1s of course). XW and XT GT arent, that is the domain of the GT-HOs. Hence those two Monaros should always pull more than the lesser spec GTs. Just like
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 7:41:14 AM(UTC)
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Dont get me wrong as Im Holden through and through. Our cars have been all GM except 1 Chrysler. Zero Fords. However I have watched this market for over 20 years and Ford leads! Has always done so and I can see no reason for change. To be fair an 81837 ca
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 8:57:08 AM(UTC)
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Drive a HO, then drive a 350 Monaro, you will soon find out why the HO will always have a better following. Even a good mock up will fetch as much if not more than most V8 GTS Coupes
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#6 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:26:40 AM(UTC)
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I agree that the HO will always have a bigger following. It comes down to nostalgia and there are far more people that can get in the back of a HO and reminisce that "this is just like the taxi I caught to the airport in the 70s" than can say the same for
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#7 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 4:04:04 PM(UTC)
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Ford have only made the few years of good performance stuff in Australia ie XR to XA. Nothing since. Hence they are rarer and more sought after. Holden (and via HDT and HSV) started a year late with HK-HG 1837, LC and LJ XU-1. But they kept on going with
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 12 March 2009 11:33:16 PM(UTC)
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Your right Byron,thats a good way to look at it.The XR started it all,and it finished with the XA supercar scare.After that, there has been nothing desirable from Ford.

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#9 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 12:43:59 AM(UTC)
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20 Years of Mt Panorama, Bathurst race winners:


1968 Holden......HK 327 Coupe
1969 Holden......HT 350 Coupe
1970 Ford.........XW GT
1971 Ford.........XY GT HO
1972 Holden..... LC GTR XU1 Coupe
1973 Fo

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#10 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 1:18:49 AM(UTC)
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It is always the XY GT that everyone talks about and compares to the Holden and Chryslaer products and then state about how the prices are so much less.

The fact is the XY GTHO was the record holder for the fastest 1/4 and highest speed of a four door
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#11 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 1:40:33 AM(UTC)
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20 Years of Mt Panorama, Bathurst race winners:

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#12 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 1:55:28 AM(UTC)
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fair call but I didnt go earlier than 68 as Holden didnt have a serious crack at production racing until 68... in 67... the Gt didnt have one sceric of competition...

and as for the cosworth sierras.... they were imported not Australian production car

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#13 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 2:23:23 AM(UTC)
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Another example is the Fairlane Brougham comparison, two fairlane models, one a 6 cylinder, bench seat, 3 speed maual with drum brakes, the other V8 auto, buckets, disc brakes, power steering. How maqny of the top line Fairlanes did they sell comp
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#14 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 2:50:20 AM(UTC)
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old statesmans have never been big dollar pullers in any cond maybe its the body style ? I have a HJ deville I bought last year, its a one owner with books and matching numbers, its tidy not perfect with very minor rust ,air and steer and runs well for $1
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#15 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 3:28:45 AM(UTC)
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fair call but I didnt go earlier than 68 as Holden didnt have a serious crack at production
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#16 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 3:39:27 AM(UTC)
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I agree,if I had the cash, I would have bought that white HK Brougham off ebay,gee it was a lovely car, and also that 350 Statesman that finished last night, put them in the shed, covered them, and enjoyed them.
To me, they are the pick of the bunch as w
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#17 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 7:15:48 AM(UTC)
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This is a fair indication of the pricing changes lately.
The "wise ones" at AMCS started, or should I say, probably over valued this car at $79990, then it went to $69000,now its at $56000,and it still hasnt sold, so its anyones guess where it will go to

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#18 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 7:44:05 AM(UTC)
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Youd be mad to buy that Falcon over that XW8. These two are probably better buys, but the A9X is a fair bit dearer, although worth every bit (in the long term):

http://www.australianmus...om.au/muscle_view/123246

http://www.australianmuscl
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#19 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 8:16:42 AM(UTC)
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i agree, id have the GTS anyday, but people do strange things
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#20 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2009 9:23:02 AM(UTC)
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Another example is the Fairlane Brougham comparison, two fairlane models,

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