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Hi all, Ive got a HK 307 Kingy and was just about to connect up the driveshaft only to find out the yoke on the rear of the driveshaft is larger than that of the diff. This is not the original shaft but a replacement one that came with the car, as the running gear had been removed prior to sale. So the way I see it I need to be able to verify that the diff is correct (should be the V8 2.78 to suit the powerglide) or the driveshaft is correct. That would mean the diff has been changed on me prior to me picking up the car, not agood prospect to be facing and if so will result in me shaming and naming the Melbourne business that I bought it from as this is not the first thing that has been incorrect to pre sale conditions. Is there any way of finding out whether it is a V8 diff or not, yoke size perhaps? Can anyone help me, please...
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Sounds to me like youve got a banjo diff and need a salisbury diff. If the tail shaft fits in the box and is the right length,I would take off one of the yolk cups(tailshft)and go looking for a salisbury to try it for size.Did you buy the car as a roller?,beacause quite often people will put in anything to get them on wheels.(well not a 9" but.)I would have thought being a 307 it should have a salisbury.....sorry thats all I know about them. PS .after reading your post again ,I would be also checking the tags for original running gear as I think that is more what your getting at. Jim in Adelaide...Hindsight is bad vision! Edited by user Tuesday, 26 January 2010 10:17:16 PM(UTC)
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HK 307 Kingswood could be either banjo or salisbury but most likely banjo. Is it a V8 banjo, or a 6cyl banjo in the car? Or is it a Salisbury? You may have a Salisbury tailshaft and a banjo or vice versa. Or you may have a Salisbury diff and a banjo tailshaft. Or a 6cyl banjo and a V8 banjo tailshaft. Is the tailshaft still its original colour?
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Bring it all down to my house if you like and i will identify what you need as i have most of that stuff here , or you can look at stuff . I have just used a V8 3.08 Banjo in my van and changed the flange to a 6 cyl one now , so maybe that has happened also . James 03 9505-6404 www.monaromuscleparts.com
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Thanks fellas for the replies. Im not totally sure but didnt the V8 banjos all look like the 6 cylinder one and the Salisbury had the plate at the back of the housing? Ill go and get some photos of it tomorrow and if someone could explain to me how to add photos to this topic I can pop them on for you all to look at. James, I would love to come over and have a look at your stuff, and as for the colour of the tailshaft Byron, I will scrape the black paint off and see what I can find. Thanks again for the help. Im positive the original car was a 307 powerglide car, and it still has the original yellow LSD stickers on the boot lid and on the pillar where the drivers door attaches. The car still has the delete dash surround fitted and the speedo cable is in the right spot where it exits the firewall. the wiring for the auto switch under the column has the right colour wires and plugs, and still had the original engine pipes when I first saw it. The power steering was all still there too, it was removed before I got the car but I knew it wasnt part of the deal so thats cool.I have also spoken to the guy who bought it from the original owner to confirm authenticity, the main issue is making sure i have what I paid for and being sure the facts are right before taking the next step in getting the diff sorted, I was supplied the drive shaft in question but the guy before me kept all the running gear from it, drive shaft obviously included.
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V8 and 6cyl banjo are the same except for the yoke where the uni goes.
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put a 9" in it, get a tailshaft made up from duggans or any truckline store that have the workshop facility incorporated with them and be done with it
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I agree with Wrecked!!
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If it was to be driven every day and given some stick I agree too, but for a restored sunday driver with a stock 307 powerglide in it why not leave the banjo?
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A 9 inch?..would a 307 and a powerglide be able to turn a 9 inch? ha..ha..
Really though ,probably better putting a salisbury ,they are cheap enough and
are holden fitted anyway and lots of ratios to choose from,no-one really cares if it had a banjo in anyway.I know I wouldnt.
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Not a HK-HG Salisbury, these are expensive and not easy to find anymore.
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Ive blown up bangos with stock 6s @ jim dont underestimate any SBC engine @ HK1837 Totally agree HK-G Salisburys very hard to get! OHH and because F@#Ds have always been falling apart with rust issues (From New),makes the 9inch very available with so many ratios to boot!
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on 2nd thoughts, would you really even bother?????
just go the banjo, why waste a good small tube 9" housing on a conversion for a HK
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SBC ?A Big difference between the power output of a 350 ,327 and a 307 my friend.9"=available yes but expensive to fit a hk.P.S. Ive got 3 of them ,I promise I wont underestimate them.Also Byron arent the salisbury centres interchangable with other easier to get models? we wreck....I AGREE.why waste a 9 ".On a 307? ha ha. Jim in Adelaide...Hindsight is bad vision! Edited by user Wednesday, 27 January 2010 3:52:32 PM(UTC)
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Also Byron arent the salisbury centres interchangable with other easier to get models?
Jim. HK/T/G Salisbury diffs are a totally different item to any of the HQ-WB or Commodore type large or small Salisbury diffs. None of the internal parts are interchangeable. As Byron & the others have said, the HK/T/G Salisbury diffs are getting rare. Dr Terry _______________________________________ There are only 3 types of people in the world. 1. Those who make things happen. 2. Those who watch things happen. 3. Those who wonder what happened. |
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Hi Dr Terry,I didnt know they were that rare,still not as dear as a 9 inch set up,but then I suppose Im not looking for one.I guess the point Im trying to make,is it seems to me the guy who started the post was kind of leaning towards originality and it kind of spun off track as these threads do.It seems that alot of people always have to go ,biggest ,fastest,tightest ,longest,rarest and I dont think thats what all cars are about.Some guys just want answers for the cars they got.I also am guilty of this(lol),so I try to keep it on an even keel so to speak.Thats why I didnt agree with a 9 inch,they are a great diff ,but overkill in this application and far from original
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An original HK-HG Salisbury will cost you 2-3 times what a 9" will cost. Maybe more.
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UNREAL.!As I said I aint been looking.Thankfully Ive only got a HQ van. Jim in Adelaide...Hindsight is bad vision! Edited by user Thursday, 28 January 2010 3:54:49 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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An original HK-HG Salisbury will cost you 2-3 times what a 9" will cost. Maybe more.
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not sure if i would totally agree with this comment as in todays market, you will need just shy of $1000 to buy a stuffed LSD centre and small tube housing to start with, then you need to rebuild the centre and shorten housing unless you use an XY length housing($1000 just for that), then get some axles, you wouldnt bother with genuine axles now, so get some mosers @ $800, so all of a sudden this conversion starts adding up as well "Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."
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I meant secondhand stuff already converted. For example my red GTS327 has an XY GT 9" in it, which to me is junk and ill sell it when I ever get around to pulling it out. I wouldnt expect it to sell for more than $800 and I know I wouldnt buy an original 10 bolt for less than $1,500. Im not saying Id but one as I already have 3 or 4 of them. Id just buy a new Moser 12 bolt for a 67-69 Camaro for about $2500 and get HK hangers on it.
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