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#1 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 8:19:56 AM(UTC)
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Its been a bit quiet here today, so I thought that I would liven things up a bit.
Heres a quiz that will get the real Holden guys thinking.

1. Which Holden series has the most available engine options ?
2. What are 2 identifying features of a Holden EH S4 ?
3. If we dont count car radios & alternators as being electronic devices, what was the first Holden to use electronics of any type ?
4. What was the first Holden to feature rack & pinion steering ?
5. What Holden (of any type) had the largest engine capacity ?
6. What Holden (of any type) had the smallest ?
7. In which Holden series was the first genuine cassette player made available ?
8. When were genuine (Nasco) power brakes first made available on a Holden ?
9. When was Holden power steering first made available ?
10. Which Holden was the first to feature power steering as standard equipment ?

There are no prizes, just the prestige of being the first in with 10 correct answers.
There are rules, Byron, Warren, commodorenut & BS are not allowed to enter. Sorry guys.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:30:51 AM(UTC)
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Ill have a crack...

1. HT?
2. The S part of the badge and the 4 part of the badge ?! No idea on that one, a carby and a cam?
3. A clock perhaps
4. VL
5.The HDT 427 if that counts
6.Im sure a gemini or a camira had a 1.3 in it
7. Ill go with the HQ
8. HR
9. HK
10.VK


I think I should hit the books!
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#3 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:32:56 AM(UTC)
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Will give it a crack - guess I will find out how much I know!

1. Which Holden series has the most available engine options ?
HQ
173 LC 2850
173 HC 2850
202 LC 3300
202 HC 3300
253 LC 4200
253 HC 4200
308 5000:
350 Chev 5700

2. What are 2 identifying features of a Holden EH S4 ?
- Radiator is the same as the auto version apart from the oil cooler pipe being removed
- The clutch housing is larger with wider spacing of bolt holes for attaching the transmission

3. If we dont count car radios & alternators as being electronic devices, what was the first Holden to use electronics of any type ?
JB Camira on the Family II engines.

4. What was the first Holden to feature rack & pinion steering ?
Gemini

5. What Holden (of any type) had the largest engine capacity ?
HSV W427

6. What Holden (of any type) had the smallest ?
Gemini - 4cyl, 1584cc

7. In which Holden series was the first genuine cassette player made available ?
UC Torana - 1978

8. When were genuine (Nasco) power brakes first made available on a Holden ?
1965

9. When was Holden power steering first made available ?
1965

10. Which Holden was the first to feature power steering as standard equipment ?
VN Commodore (?)
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#4 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:49:45 AM(UTC)
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1. HQ.
2. Larger fuel tank. Upgraded clutch housing & friction material.
4. Early 4 cyl HB Torana.
6. HB Torana, 1100cc.
8. EJ.
9. For EH as an option.

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#5 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:53:33 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Dr Terry
There are rules, Byron, Warren, commodorenut & BS are not allowed to enter. Sorry guys.

Most are probably too early for me anyway! I reckon I only really know about 3 answers with any sort of confidence!

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#6 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 10:01:23 AM(UTC)
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Some tough questions there Terry and this is when you can tell most people favour one model and dont know much or give a stuff about the others!
Ok i will have a crack for the self importance and to try and get into the grand poobah club of elites ! Tell me if i can yell out "Bingo" or not terry !

What about HG For engines
161, 173, 186, 186S, 202, 253, 308, 350 if you discount the Low and high comps.

S4 Fuel Tank , and Brake Shoe linings

HB Torana for Rack and Pinion Steering

EK Holden Clock ?

Leo Pruneaus HQ 350 that originally had a 400 Olds engine but basically it would be The 427 late model Monaro

HB 1100

Tape Player HK

EJ for Power Brakes?

EH offered with Power Steering

VN for Power Steer for model range and Yes HK brougham for single actual model?

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#7 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 7:06:48 PM(UTC)
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1. LH Torana had 10
1900 low comp
1900 high comp
2250 low
2250 high
2850 low
2850 high
3300 low
3300 high
4.2
5.0
5.0 L34

2.Larger tail shaft, bigger fuel tank, power brake booster, nodular iron diff.

3.Cigarette lighter on FE?

4.HB Torana

5.Holden and Bedford were tied up for a while? 460 Diesel?

6. HB Torana

7.HK 68

8.65 HD

9.1963 EJ

10. HK Brougham
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 8:57:51 PM(UTC)
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Can I play Devils advocate though, and be cheeky?

Heres one - Question talks about Holdens. So that rules out Torana, Sunbird, Statesman, Gemini, Commodore!!

So limits it to 48/215 to WB, and VU-VE ute. Possibly VG-VSIII ute but I thinks some of these are badged as Commodores...

Will make the quiz a bit easier!

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#9 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Sorry Bryon, I should have clarified that bit.

Im talking about all cars that are considered or badged Holdens. I realise that some cars like HQ> Statesmans & some Toranas didnt actually have a Holden badge but they are all included. All Australian Commodores & utes etc. Even GM-H themselves arent quite sure which actually had a Holden badge & which one didnt. All the imports with Holden badges (Barinas, Rodeos, Drovers etc.) all included.

The ones I dont count as Holdens are anything that was made for export as a Chev or Pontiac etc. I dont count Bedfords or Vauxhalls. I also draw a line at HSV, HSV is a privately owned company selling cars with an HSV badge & not a Holden badge. Even
VFacts figures exclude HSV.

BTW, nobody has got anywhere near 10 correct answers so far.

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:35:02 PM(UTC)
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In 69 the Hurricane had all sorts of electronic gizmos like closed circuit tv rear vision and route finder navigation. Does it count for question 3?
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#11 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 9:52:22 PM(UTC)
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It has to be a production car, not a protoype or concept car. But the answer is earlier than 1969 anyway.

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#12 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 10:01:00 PM(UTC)
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So Terry does that rule out the equivalent GMH product as the XW Bill Bourke special (for the biggest engine question)?

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#13 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 10:11:54 PM(UTC)
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i wouldnt know even know 1-2 of the above questions..counts me out of the brains trust..hahaha, but i do know in what year that the first 200mph "pseudo" doorslammer pass was made..

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#14 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 10:23:18 PM(UTC)
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Frank, you arent alone! I think I know 2, maybe a maximum of 4 off the top of my head! Id have a crack at all but id bet without referring to books Id only get 4 right max!

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#15 Posted : Saturday, 6 February 2010 11:48:13 PM(UTC)
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No. 9 = HR?
No. 10 HK Brougham?
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#16 Posted : Sunday, 7 February 2010 12:22:40 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by Monaro Muscle Parts


What about HG For engines
161, 173, 186, 186S, 202, 253, 308, 350 if you discount the Low and high comps.


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James, ill prompt a bit here. If you are differentiating between 186S and 186 then surely 350M and 350A are as different as well?

Again, playing devils advocate (although Im sure Dr Terry will disallow the 327 even though it was in a production HT) for engines, what about HT?

161H, 161L, 186P, 186L, 186S, 253H, 253L, 307, 308H, 327, 350M, 350A.

Although if you include the AHG vehicles I agree with you on HG:

161H, 161L, 186P, 186L, 186S, GD, GE, GL, GM, 253H, 253L, 308H, 350M, 350L (plus the 130E on the export vehicles).

Although LC might equal HG with 14 engine options that I can think of plus maybe one more if 130T/CA prefixed engines count (may be export only).


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#17 Posted : Sunday, 7 February 2010 1:14:55 AM(UTC)
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1. Which Holden series has the most available engine options ?
LC torana

2. What are 2 identifying features of a Holden EH S4 ?
Upgraded brakes, Improved cylinder head design, Larger clutch & tail shaft, larger fuel tank & heavy duty radiator.

3. If we dont count car radios & alternators as being electronic devices, what was the first Holden to use electronics of any type ?
48/fx radio suspression adaptors fitted to coil lead. otherwise nasco temp oil guage for FX dash.

4. What was the first Holden to feature rack & pinion steering ?
HB Torana

5. What Holden (of any type) had the largest engine capacity ?
VE 6.0 litre.

6. What Holden (of any type) had the smallest ?
HB Torana 1159cui

7. In which Holden series was the first genuine cassette player made available ?
first integrated unit was HQ, first option was in HK/LC.

8. When were genuine (Nasco) power brakes first made available on a Holden ?
FE onwards, caravaning was big..

9. When was Holden power steering first made available ?
EJ, 1962

10. Which Holden was the first to feature power steering as standard equipment ?
VN Commodore, manual steering rack was optional.

Hey Doc give us a score out of Ten.. just like to know how close I got.lol

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#18 Posted : Sunday, 7 February 2010 1:55:42 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by HK1837
So Terry does that rule out the equivalent GMH product as the XW Bill Bourke special (for the biggest engine question)?

The XW Bill Bourke special was not a production car, it was like many of Leo Pruneaus & John Bagshaws show cars. They were one-off specials.

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#19 Posted : Sunday, 7 February 2010 2:00:34 AM(UTC)
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Bugger. That rules out the special HQ LSs!!

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#20 Posted : Sunday, 7 February 2010 2:13:32 AM(UTC)
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OK scores so far:

monarosteve - 1 (actually 2 x 0.5)
gthr - 0.5
utility8 - 1.5
monaromuscle - 3.5
wbute - 3.5
monaro202 - 4
BlueZ - 2

Nobody has answered questions 6 or 7 correctly & questions 1 & 8 have only been answered correctly once. Question 3 is a curly one & nobody has got my answer to it, 2 guys got close so I gave them 0.5.

Ill give all my answers when somebody can score 6 or better.

On second thoughts I should let commodorenut have a shot, because most topics are pre-Commodore.

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