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Looking for opinions. I own a Satin Mist GTS 253 Auto and Im the second owner, its only done 158000km and i have all the original purchase paperwork you can think of. The car only has three minor spots of rust ( rear wheel arch and below each corner of the windscreen) It has had a respray in the past but overall is in very good condition for its age.
I know its diffictuly without pics and its probably a difficult question to answer cos everyones circumstances are different and the condition of cars differ but I want to know what the best course of action would be in regards to completely restoring this car to looking brand new. I don't intend on selling the car cos it owes me practically nothing.
I realise that these cars are not as collectable and am not really worried about overcapitalising but its a great car given everything is original and in good condition.
Do I get each part of the car done by different proffessions or do I give it to a one stop restoration company. I don't have the time or space to take it apart either so thats another factor.
Some might say just repaint it and others might say don't waist your money. Interested to hear what others would do thats all.
Thanks in advance.
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Just fix the rust and repaint it and leave it as it is. Itll be worth more in original condition anyway. Of course replace any worn out bits like steering, suspension etc, and get any buggered trim fixed. It will all add up though. Dont expect much change from $12,000 doing lots yourself, and that would be with a great car to start with. A one stop shop may charge you $20,000 or more. Or, sell your car as it is and buy one someone has already spent money on like the one in the attached link. Youll be in front at the end! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...Cars?hash=item335c0c5a3d_______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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Kev, my 2 Bobs worth ............
It sounds like its worthwhile keeping and restoring. Whether you keep it totally original or add some "personal touches" is your choice. Id probably do the latter. As for how to go about that and what level to go to, it depends on how deep your pockets are.
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i agree with byron, just fix what needs to be fixed, and just drive it and enjoy, things get outta hand quick when you pull them apart in thousands of pieces.. quick fix, hop back in, easy.
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Thanks for that guys. I appreciate the positive feedback.
How far would a budget of $25 - 30,000 get me as far as a resto goes?
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Youd end up with a pretty nice car, if youre willing to over capitalise that much. Will also depend on what you want the end result to be. For example, reco the 253 or put something else in it, reco the existing Auto or put something else in, keep the existing wheels or do something, keep the stock paint, which means some things may not need repainting, or go for a different colour and repaint everything else etc. etc. Lots of decision making required before a (hopefully) realistic budget can be set.
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Thanks for that guys. I appreciate the positive feedback.
How far would a budget of $25 - 30,000 get me as far as a resto goes?
Kev
depends on where you are, what you do and more importantly who you know. Body and paint here in melbourne alone is now ridiculusly priced at anywhere between $15k-20k from even a shmuck shop, ch31 star peter tommasini from classic car restorations works on $88 an hr just for body, so you work it out on just how bad our car is. if your car is just showing its age, tart her up a lill, and enjoy, trust me on this, its easier and the car will retain some of its interity and driveability, but ultimately its up to you "Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."
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Im in Perth but it sounds as though panel and paint is the way to go for me. I dont want to do anything like change colour, engine or anything I want to keep it original.
The rear seat has hardly ever been used. Both front seats only require minor work and the dash pad has some cracks so i suppose I could just get the body done and chip away at the rest.
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Hi,
I am currenly going through the same process right now with my GTR
( near Bunbury )
Although it would have been better to totally strip the car and start again I have no intention of going that far.
Like you, my Torana it fairly original and I am going to great lengths to keep it that way, after all an original car is often worth more than a brand new one.
Anything you pull off the car keep, even if broken as you will find some aftermarket repro stuff is not the same and will detract from its originallity. Most pannel shops will not know the correct way to remove bits without breaking them so ask around, ( perhaps the Holden Club )
anything left on anywhere in the vacinity of the repair work is liable to get damaged so beware.
My GTR came back from the paint shop in a big mess so that was a bit offputting.
I still have the original underfelt and rear carpet in my car so I was keen to retain those.
My job got bigger than expected as they always do, but I will have the roof and boot painted for under $2000, having done the stripping out myself.
Rightly or wrongly I elected to soda blast the roof and boot then acid treat to remove the rust, while many would not use soda as it gets everywhere I wanted to keep the car mobile.
You need to spend hours getting all the soda out, I am still finding it!
I also have a HJ Monaro project if you are interested.
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for those tips. I spoke to a client of mine today who is a trimmer by trade. He has been trimming these cars for years. He will retrim both front seats, replace the drivers door trim and do some general tidying up for me.
Im going to tackle this a bit at a time because like you I want to keep the car mobile. When its time to paint I will get a few quotes and find out the best way forward.
Hopefully I will be able to take the drive down your way when its finished but I dare say that will be some months away yet.
I will post some pics when I start doing a few things.
Kev
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"Body and paint here in melbourne alone is now ridiculusly priced at anywhere between $15k-20k from even a shmuck shop"
Geeze I love living in SA. We have some good "beaters" locally and some rather sad ones. 10 years ago when I got my HZ Ute done. It was rust and more rust. all bottoms of panels and doors where gone. Because it was sandman I wanted it done. It was 99% metal finished. Cost me $5000 inc paint. 10 years later and only one tiny spot of rust popping out in front of the windscreen. This was my fault. I didnt want to replace the whole cowel. The beater told me it would rust, oops... About 3 years ago I when in and asked about getting my ute resp[rayed back to orginal colour. Was quoted 10-12k. I do wonder if prices have gone up....
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i agree with byron, just fix what needs to be fixed, and just drive it and enjoy, things get outta hand quick when you pull them apart in thousands of pieces.. quick fix, hop back in, easy.
"Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."
Be different, restoring is boring, everyone does the same run of the mill crap these days, all looking for that matching screw set that wasnt even as good from factory. put a big block in it, you will never look back and you will have something different, tuff and you will hose all these dudes with their boring, everyday, everywhere, same/ same over restored, boring, lifeless monaro that really isnt worth what they think it is anyways. anyone can restore a car, but it takes ball to cut one, so be different,and before all the purists jump up and down saying you have to massacre a good car to do it, my best mate has a BBC in his HK, and its awesome and well engineered and looks factory and can be done without butchering the car. go fatty, forget the rest (ya just cant make up ya mind ya goose) |
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
now daniel, you wont understand the above comment, so i will do my best to put it into "Laymans" terms so you may understand what you copied and pasted above in the previous post.
now simply, the above phrase means to imitate someone is to pay the person a genuine compliment, often an unintended compliment.
so daniel, thank you, obviously i mean the world to you..
CHEERS fellow old holdener
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wtf??????? think you took the red pills instead of the green ones Franky . im not imitating any one ya wombat, just curious as to why the same basis in the initial post and another on old holden was written, and you turn around and completely go against you initial reply????? PS ..... i love how you say restoring is boring blah blah then ask for nos pinch [email protected] time your at the doctors i would mention that you might suffer from this...few pointers...... Aggression....see old holden threads Depression...speaks for itself Mood swings...one minute your praising next your ..see old holden threads Deceitfulness and Mistrust.....re ford posts and eBay cons Impulsive behavior.......see above dribble about imitation Anxiety......is ya hands shaking. NEXT |
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If the car is bog stock original, restore it. If its been modified, continue modifying it. I hate to see original cars that have been butchered beyond belief so that it has a V8, different trim and sprayed with supacheap $2 spray cans by a backyarder. Point in question, how many original VB Commodores do you see on the road?? Not many as alot of have been modified by backyarders. However, I must confess that I own a modified VY Commodore but I hate Commodores. The last true well built Holden was the WB. Edited by user Friday, 23 April 2010 4:48:22 PM(UTC)
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I hate to see original cars that have been butchered beyond belief so that it has a V8, different trim and sprayed with supacheap $2 spray cans by a backyarder.
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wtf??????? think you took the red pills instead of the green ones Franky .
im not imitating any one ya wombat, just curious as to why the same basis in the initial post and another on old holden was written, and you turn around and completely go against you initial reply?????
PS ..... i love how you say restoring is boring blah blah then ask for nos pinch [email protected] time your at the doctors i would mention that you might suffer from this...few pointers......
Aggression....see old holden threads
Depression...speaks for itself
Mood swings...one minute your praising next your ..see old holden threads
Deceitfulness and Mistrust.....re ford posts and eBay cons
Impulsive behavior.......see above dribble about imitation
Anxiety......is ya hands shaking.
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omg hahaha love it...daniel...seeming you know so much about pills, get off those home made disco cookies will ya that are frying your brain and have another read from the start, and then re read it, and then re read it again and then it may sink in what advice i was giving this particular question and why the certain advice was given, and ill even let you in on a hint as to why i posted what i said, maybe coz its still driving?? make sense?? its not in hundreds of pieces so why tear it down??? get it??? now bloke, you went as far as to quote me, i reckon thats flattery at its best my dear friend, but i guess you still just dont get it huh?? restoring is totally boring my friend, and tools like you you will never be able to enjoy good times with cars due to you with your head so far up ya ass and with blinkers on,you just cant see past it, get it haha. daniel, always be curious to what i do next,and to what i will post next be it here or anywhere ps can ya help me with some pinchweld and some ford parts please daniel?? no one else here can? lol i got 21 that need NOS stuff now, especially air cleaners painted..lol. must go my hand is shaking again NEXTTTTTTTT "Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."
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I hate to see original cars that have been butchered beyond belief so that it has a V8, different trim and sprayed with supacheap $2 spray cans by a backyarder.
we wreck had 20 laying about rusting in his back yard..hahahahah
hahaha, sounds like us daniel, we added a 1967 fiat bambino to the list make it 21 now hahaha we gunna BBC it. yeeee harrrrrrr ya hick head, now back to topic ya tool, or maybe sell it on ebay???? LOLOL ohhh year, better call all my mate to bid it up huh daniel. i tell ya what, maybe you can start bidding for me...and i will 3/4 your car in return?? NEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT "Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.." Edited by user Friday, 23 April 2010 6:55:53 PM(UTC)
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Originally posted by blissy
Aggression....see old holden threads
Depression...speaks for itself
Mood swings...one minute your praising next your ..see old holden threads
Deceitfulness and Mistrust.....re ford posts and eBay cons
Impulsive behavior.......see above dribble about imitation
Anxiety......is ya hands shaking.
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ay frank,have you been goin over to oldoldens with a hangover??? its no wonder your being misunderstood.. going to church makes you no more a christian than standing in a garage makes you a car... www.classicozwreck.com.au |
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I also see you like quoting me in most posts...thanks old boy.
But do explain....if lets say a hk holden came along but was born with a 161 3 on the tree. But the motor and gear bx was not in it, does that mean its in 1 million pieces?????
I find it quite funny you saying (tools like YOU YOU will never be able to enjoy good times with cars.)
2 resons the place you work does other peoples cars up, while you sweep the floor and make coffee.
And becouse your a 60 year old virgin the only good time you can have in a car is with yourself....pmsl....
Your welcome to give me your ebay i.d i would be happy to bid up all your stuff....
If any ones a tool head it really would have to be you old boy...
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