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G'day guys
I know this will probably be bread and butter for most but this will be a 1st for me. I want to change the oil on my HQ. IS it simply unbolt the screw at the oil pan, let it drip out, replace oil filter and fill back up.
I guess how much oil to fill back and anyone recommend good oil for a 253 red motor.
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Get the engine hot. Get a container big enough to hold 5 litres. Undo the drain bolt on the sump and drain old oil into the container. You will need a filter strap/wrench to remove oil filter. A small amount of oil will drain out of it as well. Replace sump drain bolt. Put new oil filter on as per instructions on filter. Buy a quality brand filter and oil as these are far cheaper than a seized motor. They take the best part of a 5 litre bottle on a full filter/oil change. Make sure you get oil pressure on start up! The oil pumps from time to time will not get pressure if they are warn out.
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i'll just add to the above
fill the filter with oil before fitting, and smear some oil around the rubber seal before screwing it on
the old filter should screw off easy enough by hand, might need to give it a wipe with a rag first
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daves right, and as above,just confirming thats about what i do.
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Thanks for the info guys much very much appreciated.
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i usually check sump plug .its magnetic and any little steel flakes will stick to it.i give it a wipe on a clean cloth and see how much metal there is . if theres none its good if theres heaps it could possibly mean trouble .--keeo
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Double check the old rubber ring off the old oil filter is not still on the pump when you take the old filter off. If you put the new oil filter on with its new rubber ring seal on top of the old one, then trouble. Oil will come out from one of the rubber rings slipping off If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/ |
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There is one brand of filter I will never use again but wont mention the name here. I bought 5 of them, changed oil and started my ute up, strange squelching noise, walk around and look under bonnet and see oil flying out every where. Turn it off as quick as I can. Pull filter off and see the seal is blown out the side. The sump emptied in about 25 seconds!! Put the next filter on only to have the same thing happen. Try a third time, same result. Took the rest back to shop off same name as the filter brand and complain but get told I mist have done something wrong. Through the remainder in the bin.
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If you want, fire some engine flush in while warming the engine up prior to draining it. Makes the oil flow much more easily and (in theory at least) shifts a bit more of the gunge in the engine.
The other thing I do is get a magnet on a stick (either a proper pick up tool or just tape something magnetic to a stick) and give it a gentle swirl through the removed oil while still warm. (Mainly because my sump plug is not magnetic). And also to pick up the sump plug, coz it usually drops into the drain tray.
Some things to note:-
When the engine is properly warm, the engine oil is freaking hot. I have a bunch of rags handy and do the oil change on a painters drop cloth. When you get the sump plug out, the oil will rush out much further and faster than you think. It is very likely that you will miss the drain container. It is even more likely that you will end up with scalding hot oil over your hand and up your arm. Wipe quickly with the pile of rags, then reposition the drain tray. Kepp watching, because as the oil flow reduces, the aim changes quite dramatically.
The filter has a fair bit of oil in it, more will flow out from on top of it, and it will all end up up your arm and over everything around you. See not above about rags.
The sump plug should be found, inspected, cleaned and replaced as soon as possible. Otherwise you will get to the putting oil in bit and wonder why you are having trouble standing up. It is because you are standing in an increasing puddle of fresh oil.
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[quote]Originally posted by peter_smol
Double check the old rubber ring off the old oil filter is not still on the pump when you take the old filter off.
If you put the new oil filter on with its new rubber ring seal on top of the old one, then trouble.
Oil will come out from one of the rubber rings slipping off
i did this once by accident, left a big streak of oil all over the grandfathers street. he always reminded me about it too.
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Make sure the vehicle is on level ground (elementry?)
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All good tips!
Also, if you have to jack the vehicle up to get underneath to remove the sump plug, always jack it up on the side opposite to the sump plug. This will get more of the old oil out.
Avoid damaging the engine by giving it enough time to cool down before putting cold oil in. This will also mean that more of the old oil can dribble out.
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Avoid damaging the engine by giving it enough time to cool down before putting cold oil in. This will also mean that more of the old oil can dribble out.
Yes, give plenty of time to dribble out and jack up at strategic points etc, but the claim of cold oil damaging the engine is completely bogus. Its also a good idea to waste a bit of the new oil by pouring some in (a little bit) while you are still draining/dribbling. Mainly applies to new/highly maintained engines.
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These are great and useful tips, thanks guys. Knowing my luck i'll be mopping up 5ltrs of oil LOL & tell the misses i just sealed the pavement with sealer, but i'll gove it ago anyways.
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jabbas tip is probably the most important, and many of us would have mad that mistake - DONT forget to put the sump plug back in before you fillerup. I did it on my first full engine rebuild with the most ridiculously expensive oil around at the time
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You will drop the sump plug in the oil drain dish for sure! (lol) Have fun.
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