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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 8 February 2011 2:39:25 AM(UTC)
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Can anyone advise if apart from engine availability from 149 to 179 did anything else change on EH from Aug63 to end of its production ?
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 8 February 2011 4:58:44 AM(UTC)
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 8 February 2011 7:59:45 AM(UTC)
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The list of running changes to the EH series (or any other Holden for that matter) could fill a small book.

There were major changes to options in early 1964.

Firstly, when the EH was introduced (Aug '63) the 149/manual combo was standard for all models except Premier sedan & wagon which had 179 Hydra-Matic as standard. The Premier could not be optioned with a 149 or a manual trans at that time. The Hydra-Matic was optional on 149 sedans & wagons & the 179/Hydra was optional for sedans & wagons also.

The exception at that time was the limited edition 179 manual S4 Special sedan.

In Feb '64 they made a manual version of the 179 available for all models, including Premiers. The 179 (Hydra or manual) was also now available for utes & vans. Diff ratio combinations were also changed at this time.

What this means is that there were no manual Premiers built in 1963 & no 179 commercials built in 1963. 149 Hydra-Matics were commonplace place in 1963 but not so common in 1964.

Another option made available in Feb '64 was factory power steering.

Other running changes involved the headlining change in mid '64 & the water pump pulley size in late '64. The optional power booster was changed from VH24 to VH44 in April '64. Early EH engines (both 149 & 179) had Phillips headed bolts holding the rocker cover, where later engines had the regular hex headed bolts. Early engines had British made AC fuel pumps, while later units were Aust made Bendix Technico.

The retainers for the engine bay wiring harness were changed from nylon to metal for 1964.

EH commercials built in 1965 (about 6 months production) had wider (HD) brakes & were painted in HD colours.

There were many other minor changes, but these are the main ones which come to mind.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 8 February 2011 11:51:16 AM(UTC)
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the early 149 had the same gearbox as the ej, so the gearboxes began to fail, so under warranty a so-called taxi pack was fitted, this could be bought from the dealers if the car was out of warranty. don't know about the 179 motor. the pack made gearshifting a bit stiff but cured the problem.
also the voltage regulator was a fragile item which was renowned for burning out, because the generator output was raised from the EJ, and the existing regulator could not handle the extra power (it was only about 5amp) so a special resistor was installed on the back of the regulator. the resistor used to burn out and then the battery would cook because of overcharging. A superior regulator was later fitted.
I believe some of the last EHs had alternators, but I have never seen one that could be verified.
Also all the early 149 motors suffered from a hiccup when accelerating away from a standing start, was quite dangerous if you were cutting the oncoming traffic a bit fine.
It was rectified by putting a bit of wire down one of the carburetor jets passages, it was a case of the dealer experimenting with each car as each one was individual.
Many never got fixed.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 8 February 2011 4:59:35 PM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by johnperth

I believe some of the last EHs had alternators, but I have never seen one that could be verified.


An alternator was an option for all EHs from day one, but as you say they are quite rare.

I've seen 3 'real' ones, the unique part is the little junction block where the standard generator regulator harness joins the additional harness which goes to the alternator regulator. Also unlike all later alternators all wiring connections on the rear of the unit were nut & stud, their were no connector plugs.

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quote:
Originally posted by johnperth
the early 149 had the same gearbox as the ej,

Almost but not quite.

The EJ box had no provision for a rear mount, whereas all EH boxes (early & late) had the extension housing cast to suit a rear mount. Other than that they are basically interchangeable.

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 9 February 2011 9:55:08 AM(UTC)
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i have noticed that some have a square wiper motor and some had a round one. i could never figure out why.
it was suggested to me that premier ones had a round wiper motor, but anyway.

also the bonnets are different between premier and non-premier from what i have seen.
the premiers had 2 sp wiper /washers and had a small hole under the bonnet to accomodate the squirter.
this hole can be found on the under side of the bonnet, around where the skinny bit of a bonnet spear would attach.
i have only seen these bonnets on premiers

the premier washer system was different from a nasco wiper washer system from memory...
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 10 February 2011 4:13:15 AM(UTC)
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The hole under the bonnet frame at the back was early EH bonnets. The frame is the same as EJ, and the hole was for the EJ washer squirter that was on the bonnet. EH had the squirters through the plenum vent.

No EH was ever made with a bonnet spear. They were all fitted at the dealer. Mostly Premiers, as the Premier had the guard spears fitted from original assembly, and as an accessory the bonnet spear suited the Premier very well.
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#9 Posted : Monday, 14 February 2011 11:14:56 PM(UTC)
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In the early 80's a mate of mine had an early EH with the same padded dash ends (not the EH type) and metal strip running up the inside of the A pillar and above the doors as EJ's had. It looked factory and EH's were not that old back then.

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