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#1 Posted : Friday, 5 August 2011 10:19:46 PM(UTC)
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Hi All, I am in the SE QLD area (Ipswich) and I am wanting a paint job done on my WB Statesman. I am not really wanting to spend more then $3000 $4000 but when I walk into a shop without even looking up at you from the counter the reply is always $10 000. I had a guy lined up that actually came and looked at the car and said that he would do it for $3000 but his shed got wiped out in the floods. The car is straight with two small patches of rust, it has had a spray job for the car yard from the body moulds up and they have not rubbed the primer back flat so you can see a peely effect when you look plus the paint has got no depth. I can have as much of the car dismantled as required (It is pretty well pulled apart now with doing engine and interrior work) and I can rub back/sand blast bits before coming to your paint shop, I can even come and help if it helps keep the cost done. I am at the stage of putting the car back together after getting it and deciding to do a few tidy up jobs ( A/C under the dash not operating correctly, doing the heads up to suit unleaded, front end rebuild etc) and the paint job is just not up to scratch and will always annoy me if it is back on the road. I am just after a job that is done nice by someone who seems to give a stuff with what they do and is not out there just to get the money. I have had numerous jobs done by shops for parts on my bikes (Tanks, guards etc) and they are always taken back because of just slack work practices and rush jobs......and don't say you get what you pay for because these were not love jobs and I have seen plenty of 10 grand paint jobs that I could of done better in my back yard. At the moment I have a headlight housing for a Triumph bonnie at a painters I thought I would give a try...$165.00 to paint and the end result is 4 weeks and still not ready...first attempt they had not painted right up to the front edge because they just sat it done on the bench and sprayed around it and there is a sticker that is to put on top declaring the bike as the "world speed record holder" which they managed to put on upside down and this was after much discussion as to how it is to be fitted and was also noted on the job card........I could write a book on hopeless painters and their so called million dollar paint jobs. I forked out over $8000 grand in 1990 to have my GT painted by the then awarded Australias best painter Peter Zorge only to never get the car back after three years of it sitting in primer and an in house fight going on between the painter and panel beater as to who f***ed up the body work to eventually the car was burnt in a fire and then sold (that was over a period of three years so DON'T SAY you get what you pay for!!!!!!. If anyone is interested and is interested in doing decent work please give me a call Lee (07) 3389 8049 Cheers
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 6 September 2011 1:40:12 AM(UTC)
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Even just the outside without doing the inside of the doors, boot and engine bay will cost around the $6,000 mark, our 2008 Fords paint started to peel and since the warranty covers this I was quoted $6,000 for just the outside. Why not advertise in the papers and car magazines, wanted car respray to $4,000.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 6 September 2011 2:41:15 AM(UTC)
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I have estimated prices for car restorations before, and if I ever get asked

"Is that your best price?"

I answer with

"No, I can go much higher"
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 6 September 2011 3:55:58 AM(UTC)
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Maybe the reason the answer is always $10000 could be because these guys are sick and tired of spending the time giving a real quote then having the guy saying "that much!", then going to the next panel shop asking the same question. They might also only be interested in doing late model work because it maybe easier, with parts and no hidden surprises with the car. The owner of the late model car won't be as pedantic with the job as someone with an old car doing a restoration. A shop doing restoration work would have people working there with an interest in old cars, but I feel you would be paying for their interest. I'm not in the industry but have heard these types of comments. What do you reckon peter flane?
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 6 September 2011 6:02:07 AM(UTC)
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I know of a case where a panel shop did bodywork and paint on a car. We're not talking big dollar concourse, just a neat job. The owner took the car home, cut a hole in his chassis rail and promptly took the panel shop to court because they didn't paint INSIDE the chassis. No-one needs that kind of headache.
They also get people coming in with their car, saying it's got no rust and wanting a firm quote. Then you get into the job, find rust and the owner doesn't think that should cost any extra. The shop then has to either fix it at no cost properly or do a quick job and take a chance that that the owner isn't going to go nuts in 2 years time demanding it be done again cause the rust has come through.
Add on insurance, cost of tools, rent, plus you have to pay big dollars to get the good tradesmen and it's not worth it. Insurance work is easy, regular, you can get the parts, and the insurance company will pay for extra repairs if needed.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 6 September 2011 7:05:36 AM(UTC)
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sorry sir you wont like my reply, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR :-) panel shop will do smash work any day over a resto they can knock aover a five grand smash job in a week, new easy to get parts usally NO RUST.
plus painting an older car that has work done to the body befor them, well thay dont know whats under neith to bite them in the ass wheel it in the booth lay the paint on and it frys upor reacts why would you even consider it, hence most are back to bare metal.
if the beater ant getting $30 or more an hour you ant goin to be getting a good job.
my coupe was goin to cost $4000 to paint and that was after $10,000 of body work
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 7 September 2011 12:55:53 AM(UTC)
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the paint and primers thinners etc etc alone on my car cost just under $3000 do the sums
why drink & drive when you can drift & slide
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 7 September 2011 6:11:20 AM(UTC)
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speaking from a painters point of view you really do get what you pay for clearly you are going to wrong people for what you want as 69 rust bucket says materials alone would set you back at least $3 to $4 grand unless you went for cheaper alternatives then you have labour costs etc $10 grand is the going rate or there abouts cheap really if you do your sums i personally would not touch a car for under $15 grand in this day and age . alot of panel shops dont want to do them because they are time consuming sure you can do the cheap jobs but i can assure you that nothing will be taken of the car it will all be masked up and a quick scuff and qucik coat of the cheapest paint available to them
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#9 Posted : Friday, 9 September 2011 6:54:29 AM(UTC)
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Take some courses and do it yourself , go to your local paint supplier and ask for some prices on materials, 4 lt of solid paint acrylic on non metalic around $300 -400 buy a 20lt drum thinners 4lt clear, primer, you should have all your gear for about a grand unless you want fancy colours etc, I repainted my van about 6 years ago for about $500. in acrylic and in its original white colour. I had a mate with a mig welder to do some rust patches, the van is due again after some time in the weather but hey 6 years for $500. and it still looks okay from 10 feet away ..lol.
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