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David 67HR Offline
#1 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2015 5:33:26 AM(UTC)
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What are these Stromberg carbies off 23-3019 1 5/32
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#2 Posted : Friday, 13 March 2015 11:30:26 PM(UTC)
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HR-HG and LC 161 manual according to this site:

http://monarocoupe.com/w...2-barrel-model-numbers/
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#3 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 2:16:06 AM(UTC)
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My list says that it's a 1-3/32" carby off 149 & 161 from Nov 65 (HD) to HG & 2250/2600 LC - manual trans only.

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#4 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 2:28:02 AM(UTC)
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I'd trust Dr Terry's info first before stuff off the 'web!
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#5 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 2:40:10 AM(UTC)
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I'd trust Dr Terry's info first before stuff off the 'web!

I suppose that I should 'fess-up'. It's not 'my' info, I've compiled it from several original Bendix Stromberg parts manuals that I've collected over the years.

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#6 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 3:10:20 AM(UTC)
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It'd still be heaps more accurate than a 'web list. At least the 'web page is in the ballpark!
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#7 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 6:03:26 AM(UTC)
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What about 23-3020 1 5/32 what are they off lads
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 14 March 2015 8:28:05 PM(UTC)
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My list says that it's a 1-5/32" carby off 179/186 from Nov 65 (HD) to HG - manual trans only.

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#9 Posted : Monday, 16 March 2015 9:57:30 AM(UTC)
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Thanks DR Terry, got a matched pair fully rebuilt for $300
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 17 March 2015 9:35:56 PM(UTC)
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What about 23-3014 DR Harry
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 17 March 2015 9:46:25 PM(UTC)
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23-3020 is a HR-G 186 manual.
23-3014 is a HD-G 186 auto.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:39:16 PM(UTC)
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Dr Harry?
Are we talking carbies or budgies?
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:50:57 PM(UTC)
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David, when you say that you purchased a pair of these, did you mean two 23-3020 or 23-3019 ? Are you intending to run the two on one car, using an X2 manifold or similar ?

If you are, the 23-3020 carbies are too large, X2s used two 1-3/32" carbies, not two 1-5/32".

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, 17 March 2015 10:56:23 PM(UTC)
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23-3020 is a HR-G 186 manual.
23-3014 is a HD-G 186 auto.

The 23-3014 & 23-3020 both ran from mid-HD (Nov 65) to the end of HG on 186 engines.

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 18 March 2015 8:37:29 AM(UTC)
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DR Terry,

I am running 2 1-3/32 Strombergs with a 223@050 Cam and a Good ported, bigger valve head from HSD

The 2 1-5/32 Strombergs will be with a 227@050 XU1 Street Grind cam a 262HP Flow tested Head

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 18 March 2015 10:22:58 PM(UTC)
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DR Terry,

I am running 2 1-3/32 Strombergs with a 223@050 Cam and a Good ported, bigger valve head from HSD

The 2 1-5/32 Strombergs will be with a 227@050 XU1 Street Grind cam a 262HP Flow tested Head
Why ?
What intake you running ?
I seen my mates worked LH 202 with twin small 1-3.32 strombergs hose of every a triple SU that was the fastest in their towns, the dudes could not believe it when they seen twin strombergs they started looking for nitrous.
He put the bigger 1-5/32 on and lost power. he had a 30/70 HYD cam that went just as well the 35/75 solid cam.
He had triple SU but said it only was right at top end that they gave more power and that was not as good in drag racing or for the road.
He has built up 3 308 V8's and says non of them are anything near the performance that old 202 he had.
He just had a hard time keeping the 202 blocks together as they would split the blocks on the passenger side all the way.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, 18 March 2015 11:10:13 PM(UTC)
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Running a Genuine Holden X2 Manifold
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 18 March 2015 11:25:44 PM(UTC)
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Do you mean that the 1 5/32 will send too much or not enough fuel in DR Terry or are they physically too big to fit the manifold? Please explain as I value your input
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#19 Posted : Thursday, 19 March 2015 12:02:42 AM(UTC)
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The carbies will fit, but the hole is smaller in the manifold than in the carby base. This will then put a 'step' where the airflow is most important.

Also a bigger carby doesn't deliver more fuel, it delivers more air. This is why the venturi size is critical. Too big a venturi leads to flat spots etc.

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#20 Posted : Friday, 20 March 2015 12:56:10 AM(UTC)
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I understand now, thanks Dr Terry. So with a 262HP Head and a 227@050 XU1 Street Grind cam would Twin 1 3/32 Strombergs be suitable
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