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#21 Posted : Tuesday, 7 July 2015 2:43:10 AM(UTC)
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This is what i like about this forum, great discussions. I'm always learning everyday. I never knew there was an industrial Holden inline 6.
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, 7 July 2015 3:32:59 AM(UTC)
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This is what i like about this forum, great discussions. I'm always learning everyday. I never knew there was an industrial Holden inline 6.


and if you say something wrong, you don't get banned for having an opinion, the post just gets deleted.
there also isn't any real cretins or wanna be boy racers here that do circle work or pretend to be "peter brocks re-incarnated", and there is no chest beating builds that the owners take all the credit for and never mention that they have hardly lifted a spanner on, and when caught out, cry like little girls to the mods...
that is not very "Aussie" like is it "SLE/NUT" ??
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#23 Posted : Thursday, 9 July 2015 4:27:19 AM(UTC)
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...there's a nice pic of an industrial Holden grey complete with crank handle starter set-up, magneto (no electrics) and what appears to be an updraft carby with top mount exhaust manifold...all put up by Harvs on the FX FJ forum in the last day or two, and lifted out of the GMH industrial engine parts catalogue from back in the day...

...could anyone copy and paste the pic for continuity to this topic?

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#24 Posted : Thursday, 9 July 2015 10:48:37 PM(UTC)
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This is what i like about this forum, great discussions. I'm always learning everyday. I never knew there was an industrial Holden inline 6.
Yes there were 6 cyl ford 200ci in cement mixer trucks and 215 hemi ones as well in them auto trans with 1st gear taken out of the box.
Mainly they were all 186 that I seen and a few 202 ones back in the days before the boring ones they have now.
I don't remember seeing a blue motor one in any mixer.

We had a 4 cyl side valve willies generator out the back yard from WW2 with the crank handle to fire it up.
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#25 Posted : Friday, 10 July 2015 12:40:12 AM(UTC)
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quote:
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...there's a nice pic of an industrial Holden grey complete with crank handle starter set-up, magneto (no electrics) and what appears to be an updraft carby with top mount exhaust manifold...all put up by Harvs on the FX FJ forum in the last day or two, and lifted out of the GMH industrial engine parts catalogue from back in the day...

...could anyone copy and paste the pic for continuity to this topic?

Just looking closely at that grey industrial motor, I reckon that GM-H just turned the manifold assembly upside down & then fitted the up-draught carby. I couldn't imagine that they would make a special casting for (presumedly) such a small run of engines.

I do have that catalogue somewhere in my collection. I'll have to dig it out & check the part numbers.

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#26 Posted : Friday, 10 July 2015 12:53:58 AM(UTC)
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I did some work on a red motor on a concrete truck as an apprentice.
That long ago I can't remember what I did-only that is was a Red motor.

Thanks for the memories, you've got me interested now.
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#27 Posted : Thursday, 16 July 2015 11:03:48 PM(UTC)
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Holden Industrial Grey Engine Parts Catalogue. Just talking Grey engines here, but the catalogue lists I.D as the engine prefix for 3 3/16 bore up draught, I.B & I.J for 3 3/16 bore up draught and down draught, I.L for 3" bore down draught. Having trouble uploading photo. AL.

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#28 Posted : Friday, 17 July 2015 9:21:27 PM(UTC)
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I think the concrete trucks that had a engine to drive the mixer started in 1960 so they may of had a grey motor in them or a slant 6 or even a ford 144, 170 at that time.

If the 186 casting looks different on the industrial Holden engine maybe they have a stronger iron content in the block like the Chev do.
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I think the concrete trucks that had a engine to drive the mixer started in 1960 so they may of had a grey motor in them or a slant 6 or even a ford 144, 170 at that time.


Ford 170 & Valiant 225 weren't released in Australia until 1962 & with both being imported & therefore more expensive, I think the Grey might have had the market to itself.

Maybe a few years later, 1965/66 perhaps, by which type the newcomers had established themselves, it might have been different.

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#30 Posted : Sunday, 26 July 2015 7:56:31 AM(UTC)
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While discussing the industrial engines can anyone confirm of deny that this is a industrial lower radiator hose.

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same part number as a std HK to G std 6cyl hose but looks different.

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#31 Posted : Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:02:24 AM(UTC)
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#32 Posted : Sunday, 26 July 2015 8:17:23 AM(UTC)
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The bottom one is a Mackay hose. Maybe the top one is a different manufacturer.
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#33 Posted : Monday, 27 July 2015 8:12:41 AM(UTC)
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I was asuming that the top one was a industrial one because I seem to remember seeing the same style on some 202
engines I bought years ago that came out of cement mixer agitators.
Has anyone ever seen the first style fitted to a HK to G at all.
I noticed the CH788 on the other Nasco hose as well but was unsure on the deal with that.
Does that mean that Mackay made the original factory fitted hoses as well or just the Nasco replacement ones.
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#34 Posted : Monday, 27 July 2015 10:18:05 AM(UTC)
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Here's one I took off my first car, a 186S HT Monaro GTS, in 1978. I'm not sure what's the most tragic about that,
1/ That I remember, or
2/ That I'm that old, or
3/ That I still have it.

Mackay have been making rubber car parts since the 1930s, so may well have been one of a number of suppliers to GMH. The photo I've attached shows a different style again. I don't know who made it, but I'm fairly sure it's the original factory hose.
The part number and the Holden name on your first example look a little too big to be a genuine hose, and I think they are stencilled and not stamped. Happy to be proved wrong though.


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#35 Posted : Thursday, 30 July 2015 5:40:38 AM(UTC)
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Thanks GM5735.
I will just have to file it back in the ?? folder and see if anything else comes to light about it in the future.lol
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